Just a sample of the Echomail archive
Cooperative anarchy at its finest, still active today. Darkrealms is the Zone 1 Hub.
|    EARTH    |    Uhh, that 3rd rock from the sun?    |    8,931 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 8,279 of 8,931    |
|    ScienceDaily to All    |
|    Dinosaurs were the first to take the per    |
|    22 May 23 22:30:20    |
      MSGID: 1:317/3 646c416f       PID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08       TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08        Dinosaurs were the first to take the perspectives of others                Date:        May 22, 2023        Source:        Lund University        Summary:        Understanding that others hold different viewpoints from your        own is essential for human sociality. Adopting another person's        visual perspective is a complex skill that emerges around the        age of two. A new study suggests that this ability first arose        in dinosaurs, at least 60 million years before it appeared in        mammals. These findings challenge the idea that mammals were the        originators of novel and superior forms of intelligence in the        wake of the dinosaur extinction.                      Facebook Twitter Pinterest LinkedIN Email              ==========================================================================       FULL STORY       ==========================================================================       When someone near you turns their head towards something in the       environment, you likely can't help to follow their gaze direction. This       reaction is observed in mammals, birds and even reptiles alike. It's       an effective way to gather information about what caught the attention       of your fellow, which you might otherwise have missed. However, a far       more advanced behavior is to follow someone's gaze to a location that is       initially obstructed from your view. By repositioning yourself to see       what the other person is looking at, you demonstrate an understanding       that the other has a different perspective. This ability, known as       visual perspective taking develops in children between the ages of       one-and-a-half to two years and serves as the foundation for later       comprehending referential communication and that others have minds that       differ from your own.              Visual perspective taking has, to date, only been found in very few       species.              Mainly in apes and some monkeys, but also in dogs and crow birds. However,       there is limited knowledge regarding the evolutionary origins of       this crucial social skill. A team of researchers from Lund University       aimed to investigate a potential early emergence of visual perspective       taking in dinosaurs. Through a comparison of alligators with the most       primitive existing birds, known as palaeognaths, they discovered that       visual perspective taking originated in the dinosaur lineage likely 60       million years, or more, prior to its appearance in mammals.              Crocodilians are the closest living relatives to birds. Their       neuroanatomy has remained largely unchanged for hundreds of millions       of years, and is similar to that of the common ancestor of dinosaurs       and crocodilians. Palaeognath birds comprise the ostrich birds, such as       emus and rheas, but also the flighted tinamous. Their brains are in large       parts comparable to their forebearers, the non- avian paravian dinosaurs,       which feature such celebrities as the velociraptors. Comparing these       two groups of animals creates a bracket around the extinct lineage of       dinosaurs leading up to modern birds.              The study revealed that alligators do not demonstrate visual perspective       taking, although they do follow gaze to a visible location. In contrast,       all tested bird species exhibited visual perspective taking. Additionally,       the birds engaged in a behaviour called "checking back," where the       observer looks back into the eyes of the gazer, and re-tracks the gaze,       when unable to find anything in the direction of their gaze the first       time. This behaviour indicates an expectation that the gaze is referring       to a target in the environment. Previously, this has only been observed       in humans, apes and monkeys, and ravens.              Palaeognath birds emerged 110 million years ago, predating the two mammal       groups endowed with visual perspective taking -- primates and dogs --       with 60 million years. Considering the neuroanatomical similarities       between these birds and their non-avian forebearers, it is plausible       that the skill originated even earlier in the dinosaur lineage. However,       it is less likely to have been present among the earliest dinosaurs,       which had more alligator-like brains.              Maybe future research will show the ability to be more widespread among       mammals than currently known, but even if that would be the case it will       most probably still be predated by the dinosaur origin. Nevertheless, it       is not surprising that visual perspective taking emerged earlier in the       dinosaurs, which include the birds, given their superior vision compared       to most mammals, that historically relied on nocturnal adaptations. It       was only with the emergence of the primates and certain carnivores that       our visual capabilities improved.              This is yet another finding that calls into question the prevailing view       that mammals drove the evolution of complex cognition, and that they are       the cognitive yardstick to which other animals should be compared. An       increasing number of studies show the remarkable neurocognition of       the avian dinosaurs, the birds, which might prompt a rethinking of the       natural history of cognition.              Comments from the authors: Senior author, prof. Mathias Osvath:       "Early in my career, crow birds earned the nickname "feathered apes,"       due to numerous research findings that showcased their remarkable       cognition. However, I'm beginning to question whether it would be more       fitting to consider primates as honorary birds." First author (then       PhD-student), Dr Claudia Zeitra"g: "Birds are commonly being overlooked       when it comes to their cognitive skills. Our findings show that they       do not only have several cognitive skills on par with those of apes,       but that their forebearers most likely had these skills long before they       evolved in mammals." Middle author, Dr Stephan Reber: "Crocodilians are       ideal models to study the evolutionary origins of cognitive capacities       in birds. What they share most probably existed in the common ancestor of       dinosaurs and crocodilians. If crocodilians lack an ability birds possess,       it likely evolved in the dinosaur lineage after the split. This approach       allows us to study the cognition of extinct species."        * RELATED_TOPICS        o Plants_&_Animals        # Birds # Animal_Learning_and_Intelligence # Nature #        Bird_Flu_Research        o Fossils_&_Ruins        # Early_Birds # Dinosaurs # Early_Mammals # Paleontology        * RELATED_TERMS        o Dinosaur o Visual_acuity o Ichthyosaur o Parallel_evolution        o The_evolution_of_human_intelligence o Feathered_dinosaurs        o Bird_intelligence o Gray_Whale              ==========================================================================       Story Source: Materials provided by Lund_University. Note: Content may       be edited for style and length.                     ==========================================================================       Journal Reference:        1. Claudia Zeitra"g, Stephan A. Reber, Mathias Osvath. Gaze following        in        Archosauria--Alligators and palaeognath birds suggest dinosaur        origin of visual perspective taking. Science Advances, 2023; 9        (20) DOI: 10.1126/ sciadv.adf0405       ==========================================================================              Link to news story:       https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/05/230522131341.htm              --- up 1 year, 12 weeks, 10 hours, 50 minutes        * Origin: -=> Castle Rock BBS <=- Now Husky HPT Powered! (1:317/3)       SEEN-BY: 15/0 106/201 114/705 123/120 153/7715 218/700 226/30 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/110 112 113 307 317 400 426 428 470 664 700 291/111 292/854       SEEN-BY: 298/25 305/3 317/3 320/219 396/45       PATH: 317/3 229/426           |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca