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     Re: Kannons and Katapults - R   
     By: Mike Powell to MARTIN KAZMAIER on Wed Dec 03 2025 11:21 am   
      
    > I have some issues with some terminal programs adding extra CRs when   
    > accessing things on my DOS bbs.  It can be fixed by using Syncterm in RAW   
    > mode instead of Telnet mode.  I am not sure how you invoke raw mode in   
    > other terminal programs, or if you can.   
      
   Most other terminals do part of what SyncTERM does in raw mode by default,   
   especially around the binary mode and bare CR expansion.  Telnet is a stupidly   
   complex protocol, and not all implementers reach the same conclusions about   
   what the various bits of text actually mean because the abstractions that made   
   sense in the seventies don't really match todays landscape.   
      
   As for your DOS BBS, it sounds like it simply doesn't have a telnet server   
   answering incoming connections.   
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