On 05/18/16, Roger Nelson said the following...   
       
    RN> enjoying ZDOOM 2.8.1.  Speaking of that one, the par for level 21 is a   
    RN> ridiculous 4 minutes.  The player can't go everywhere on that level in   
    RN> that time unless they are in cliping mode.   
      
   Those par times must have been set by the developers in their lan parties. I   
   have never come close to those even in levels I know well.   
      
    Ttyl :-),   
            Al   
      
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