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   Message 302 of 419   
   John Hiemenz to Ray Sbaitso   
   Re: The Long Dark   
   13 Jun 20 11:21:00   
   
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   -=> Ray Sbaitso wrote to John Hiemenz <=-   
      
    RS>> I've started playing Breathedge.  It's an interesting game.  Have you   
    RS>> heard of it?   
      
    JH> I have not. I briefly looked it up but was convinced to start playing   
    JH> DayZ by/with some gaming friends I'd been playing Sniper Elite 4 with.   
    JH> In my opinion, survival in DayZ makes survival in The Long Dark look   
    JH> pretty easy.   
      
    RS> I listen to Jason Scott's podcast and I'm pretty sure he has talked   
    RS> about DayZ on that.  It sounds pretty intense.  I haven't done any   
    RS> multiplayer online gaming in years.  He mentioned that it could be   
    RS> fairly buggy.  Is it still under development?   
      
   It is under development, sort of. Not a lot of 'new' things I've seen, though   
   in the last month I have seen new updates fixing bugs.  There are also a lot of   
   community mods for it, and it is usually those mods that highlight the game's   
   quirks and bugs.  If you play on the 'vanilla' server, it's not very buggy. If   
   your character spawns in the woods and it's raining, or in an area infested   
   with the 'infected' ( zombies by any other name ... ), well... then your   
   character is likely to die very quickly.  I do have one character that I play   
   on a vailla server and finally spawned in an area without rain and some fruit   
   trees, so a 'hack' I learned it to navigate the fruit trees, removing any   
   rotten fruit and eating the good fruit.  Without any fruit on the ground, new   
   fruit will spawn.  Then, if it is dark and cold, or starts to rain, I tend to   
   hide in a building and leave the server for a few hours until the nighttime   
   cycle has passed.  That has kept me alive long enough where I finally found an   
   axe and a knife, so now I can stay around at night, build a fire.  Usually in   
   the middle of the floor of an old building...   
      
    RS> It's good to have a group of people you know to game with, there can be   
    RS> so much hostility out there if you just have to wander into a random   
    RS> server or game that it takes all the fun out of it.   
      
   This is the main reason I avoided multi player games for so long unless I was   
   playing with friends.  Our group tries not to be like this, though we also try   
   to retaliate against those that do.  So far the score is 1-1 in that arena and   
   we've been left alone since.   
      
    RS> I was always interested in more multiplayer co-op, but there just isn't   
    RS> much of that out there.  I guess it's difficult to find a way to put   
    RS> something like that together that would draw a big enough player base   
    RS> to make it worthwhile.   
      
   Sniper Elite 4 does have that, and thats where I met the online gaming friends.   
    You can do cooerative maps with one other player, or survival against the   
   enemy with up to 4 teammeates on the same side.  The game difficulty level will   
   dictate if there is 'friendly fire' or not, but there is also an option to   
   vote-kick a player if they are being unruly and won't leave when asked.   
      
    RS> I remember Leo Laporte talking about Minecraft once and him saying how   
    RS> unreal it would have sounded if Notch had gone to EA to try to pitch   
    RS> the game.  "It's going to be all pixelated and it's going to sell a   
    RS> million copies."  You just hear the EA rep yelling "SECURITY!!!"   
      
   Ah.. Minecraft is another game I used to love playing.  I love the creative   
   ability the game offers, though my biggest issue is I'm not freelance creative.   
    I can follow plans and instructions though, and have built some castles with   
   moats and towers, but only if someone else has designed them.  If I build from   
   my own plans, things tend to look like big pixelated squares.   
      
   Be well.  Cheers.   
      
   John   
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