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   Message 3,738 of 4,105   
   alexander koryagin to Tim Richardson   
   Re: obamas gun fight   
   20 Jan 16 10:05:27   
   
   Hi, Tim Richardson!   
   I read your message from 18.01.2016 11:21   
      
     ak>> armed citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical   
     ak>> government."   
      
     TR> What's wrong with that? Does the thought of Americans being armed   
     TR> and able to resist a tyrant who tries to impose a dictatorial   
     TR> government on us upset your view of how *you* think we should live?   
     TR> Some people lived on their knees before dictatorships and   
     TR> repression of free thought for so long, and are so used to living   
     TR> that way, they think Americans should want to live that way as   
     TR> well. And the fact that we possess the means of preventing an out   
     TR> and out dictator establishing a hold over us seems to upset the   
     TR> rest of the world.   
      
   If a state is really a strong democratic republic it can guarantee that    
   no tyrant will come to power. It is loaded into the basement of the    
   state structure itself - no need for citizens to keep submachine guns    
   under their pillows. One person have a limited power in the US.   
      
   In other words if a railway company is good you don't need to take    
   spanners while taking a ride on the train.   
      
     TR>>> Trouble is... pretty much all those who whine about ordinary   
     TR>>> Americans owning their own guns, standing at a microphone   
     TR>>> thundering against the Second Amendment, are usually surrounded   
     TR>>> by plain clothes body guards who are armed to the teeth!   
     ak>> The only hope is that they follow their promises given during the   
     ak>> election campaign. They could demand gun restriction on behalf   
     ak>> their electorate only. So democracy must show itself.   
      
     TR> We aren't a `democracy'. We are a `democratic republic'.   
      
   Above I've already told what I think of a democratic republic.   
      
      
     TR>>> Not a single teacher was armed and able to engage a gunman who   
     TR>>> was `harming the children'.   
      
     TR>>> At Sandy Hook even the security guard was `un'armed! And the   
     TR>>> children died!   
      
     ak>> I think that the probability that a teacher will kill his students   
     ak>> in temper is higher than the probability he will defend them from   
     ak>> a terrorist. :) A teacher should be unarmed, as a researcher who   
     ak>> is going to study savages in the jungle. More chances for   
     ak>> negotiations. :)   
      
     TR> To my knowledge no teacher has ever gone off in a school and   
     TR> slaughtered a classroom full of students.   
      
   Yeah, they don't carry guns yet. ;-)   
      
      
     TR> If you are a foreigner and live in a foreign country, please stay   
     TR> there and continue to be `controlled' by whatever dictator who   
     TR> rules you. We don't need you here. We already have enough leftist   
     TR> democrats who want to disarm the general public, control us in   
     TR> every aspect of our lives, and micromanage our existence. We don't   
     TR> need another one.   
      
   Of course it is up to you to decide. I mean up to Americans. But if the    
   majority wants to introduce strict arm control? Does the voice of the    
   majority means anything in your country?   
      
   Bye, Tim!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   fido7.debate 2016   
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