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   alexander koryagin to BOB ACKLEY   
   Re: obamas gun fight   
   17 Jan 16 19:26:50   
   
   Hi, Bob Ackley!   
   I read your message from 15.01.2016 11:34   
      
     TR>>>>> American citizens the right to keep and bear arms was to keep   
     TR>>>>> an armed citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical   
     TR>>>>> government.   
     ak>>>> Small arms is useless for that purpose.   
     TR>>> What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'?   
     ak>> If the army use tanks, bombers, satellite, drones, spying   
     ak>> equipment where can buy it? If you catch a tank it will be   
     ak>> destroyed by a bomber withing minutes.   
      
     BA> Tanks and bombers are pretty much useless in an urban environment -   
     BA> unless the government wants to alienate the rest of the people.   
     BA> They're pretty much useless in jungles and forests, too. We should   
     BA> have learned that in Vietnam and you should have learn ed it in   
     BA> Afghanistan.   
      
   It is not correct. The Afghan and Vietnam rebel success has some sense    
   only when they receive multi-billion military help and other high-tech    
   equipment for fighting planes, tanks etc. The success of Taliban    
   fighters now is due to they have in their hands "help" originated both    
   from the USA and the USSR. ;)   
      
     BA> Small arms, however, are very useful in such an environment. So are   
     BA> knives and garrots.   
      
   Garrot? Is it an arm, too?   
      
      
     ak>>>> Who are not allowed? Is there a certain database of those who   
     ak>>>> are not allowed?   
     TR>>> Yes. Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those   
     TR>>> who have been in mental institutions are usually caught in a   
     TR>>> background check for a firearm purchase.   
     ak>> If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it   
     ak>> doesn't mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how nutcases   
     ak>> acquire submachine guns.   
      
     BA> Submachine guns and "assault rifles" are just bullet hoses. They   
     BA> are notoriously inaccurate. An experienced shooter can do far more   
     BA> damage - from a much greater distance - with a scoped big game   
     BA> rifle, and have little "collateral damage."   
      
   But submachine guns are perfect weapon for mass murders. If the    
   Americans buy such things it means that the criminal situation is    
   similar to Intifada in Israel. ;) The next step, I suppose, will be    
   submachine guns installed on the balconies.   
      
      
     ak>> But anyway, allowing school teachers to have guns is a bad   
     ak>> idea. ;=)   
      
     BA> A century and a half ago in this country it was quite common for   
     BA> students - ages 10 to 13 - in rural schools to carry pistols to and   
     BA> from school. Yet there was none of the mayhem then that there is   
     BA> now   
      
   Well, if there were some wolves around. Otherwise the school teachers    
   should have been unhappy. ;)   
      
   Bye, Bob!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   fido7.debate 2016   
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