Hello Everybody,   
      
   A conversation was overheard between two clowns   
   in an obscure echo concerning another obscure echo -   
      
   Subject: BBBS ECHO   
   Date: Thu Oct 22 2015 02:22 am   
   From: BOB KLAHN   
   To: MARK LEWIS   
      
   EC> There is a long story about Lee Lofaso and Bob Klahn   
   EC> pulling a stunt in the coffee_klatsch echo many years ago.   
   EC> It may date back to that. It may go back further than that.   
   EC> I don't know. But it ended with Lee being disappointed and   
   EC> unhappy.   
      
   He really knows nothing about it. The coffee-klatsch echo used   
   to be a very friendly discussion echo, focused mainly on having   
   fun and discussing anything that could be made fun of.   
      
   After a while participation dropped off, and eventually the echo   
   died and went unlisted. A couple years later Roger Nelson   
   revived the echo by using it, but didn't bother to relist it. I   
   suggested he should relist it several times, but he insisted   
   that was not necessary.   
      
   After a while Lee Lofaso tried to list the echo, but got   
   rejected because Nelson had relisted it just before he tried.   
      
   Some of the flamers on this echo have repeated the claim that   
   Lee had tried to hijack the echo, but it was not listed and the   
   new echolist was not out showing that Roger had listed it.   
      
   I had nothing to do with Lee listing the echo other than   
   recommending to Roger that he list the echo. Our fear was   
   flamers would get into the echo and take it over. Which some did   
   get in but Roger had listed it and let them know that he was the   
   moderator and it was a no flame echo. They left. Not one   
   remained.   
      
   However, the hostility the flamers stirred up, and their   
   repeated accusations, poisoned the prevously friendly   
   discussions in the echo, and a number of us left, including his   
   co-moderator, whose name I can't recall right now.   
      
                      -=end quote=-   
      
   "After a while Lee Lofaso tried to list the echo, but got   
   rejected because Nelson had relisted it just before he tried."   
      
   The echo was not listed.  I relisted the echo.  Joe Bruchis   
   posted the entry publicly, for all to see, in the echo itself.   
   A week or so later I emailed the password to Roger Nelson so   
   that he could list the echo for himself.  Roger then posted   
   that entry publicly, for all to see, in the echo itself.   
      
   Ross Cassell, in his capacity as fidonet administrator,   
   and chief censor, deleted my previous listing of the echo.   
      
   Bob Klahn and Ross Cassell are working as a team.  Their   
   latest endeavor is to steal this echo.  Basically by using   
   the same means of deceit.   
      
   Only I'm not playing.   
      
   What was a joke in the coffee klasch echo was accepted as   
   being a joke, and everybody moved on and had a great time   
   afterwards.   
      
   But some people do not know when to stop, or how to   
   differentiate between what is important and what is not   
   important.   
      
   "Some of the flamers on this echo have repeated the claim that   
   Lee had tried to hijack the echo, but it was not listed and the   
   new echolist was not out showing that Roger had listed it."   
      
   Had that been the case, then Joe Bruchis would not have   
   been able to have posted the entry in the coffee klatsch   
   echo.   
      
   Those with archives can check out these facts for themselves.   
   Those without archives will just have to take my word for it.   
   After all, Ross Cassell has deleted the post that Joe Bruchis   
   made showing my listing of the coffee klastsch echo as having   
   been successful.   
      
   "I had nothing to do with Lee listing the echo other than   
   recommending to Roger that he list the echo. Our fear was   
   flamers would get into the echo and take it over. Which   
   some did get in but Roger had listed it and let them know   
   that he was the moderator and it was a no flame echo. They   
   left. Not one remained."   
      
   I listed the echo in order to save it, else Roger would   
   have lost it forever to the forces of evil.  Had Bob kept   
   his mouth shut, or at least used netmail/email rather   
   than go about making public comments, there would have   
   been no need for me to have listed the echo.  But that's   
   okay.  I saved it.  For Roger, and for everyone.   
      
   "However, the hostility the flamers stirred up, and their   
   repeated accusations, poisoned the prevously friendly   
   discussions in the echo, and a number of us left, including   
   his co-moderator, whose name I can't recall right now."   
      
   Frank Vest shut down his bbs and most never bothered to   
   return to fidonet.  There never was a co-moderator, but   
   there is one individual who remained once everybody had   
   left - Roy Witt.   
      
   --Lee   
      
   --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb   
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