Hello Bob,   
      
    LL>> It is time for somebody to turn the lights out.   
      
    LL>> Unless Bob Klahn objects.   
      
    LL>> Which he won't.   
      
    BK> The Debate echo means something to me. As does Fidonet in   
    BK> general.   
      
   Then be part of it by participating!  Invite others to join in!   
   Stir the pot, and create your own pot of gumbo!   
      
    BK> It used to be a great place to have discussions. It has declined   
    BK> drastically, with the loss of most of the people willing to   
    BK> discuss without attacking.   
      
   And who's fault is that?  Your lack of participation is part   
   of the reason why this echo lost its luster.  I am not saying   
   that is your fault, as like anybody else you do have a life.   
   But things could have been handled differently, and should   
   have.   
      
    BK> It used to be we would even talk about our families in here, with   
    BK> people we disagreed with vehemently. Now talking about them makes   
    BK> them subject to personal attack.   
      
   Again, who's fault is that?  You chose to allow a small group   
   of bullies have their way.  And now you are making friends with   
   the same group of bullies who did it to you then so that you   
   can say you are the "moderator" of an echo you cannot control?   
   A moderator does not control an echo, Bob.  That is beyond the   
   control of anyone.   
      
    BK> So, I am keeping the echo open, check in once in a while, but   
    BK> there is very little worth doing in Fidonet anymore.   
      
   I am the official moderator of the Debate echo.  The origin of   
   this version is 2:203/2 - which means you are shit out of luck.   
      
   But don't feel bad.  You have the distinct honor of joining   
   Peter Bradie as Moderator Emeritus.   
      
   --Lee Lofaso - Moderator - Debate Echo ...   
      
   --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb   
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)