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|    Lee Lofaso to BOB KLAHN    |
|    Death Wish    |
|    05 Dec 14 02:07:58    |
      Hello Bob,               BK>>> You see, in England they can give heroin to patients in extreme        BK>>> pain. That is a big difference.               LL>> We give morphine to those we deem in need. And we justify        LL>> it on the same grounds as do those in England who give        LL>> heroin to patients.               BK> Except that Heroin is not legal here, yet, from what I have        BK> read, much more effective.              So is a quick punch to the head. But with morphine, or heroin,       one does not have to break a hand or crack a skull.               BK>>> Then there's the fear of making terminal patients drug addicts.               LL>> It is not just terminal patients who are drug addicts.               BK> Yeah, but worrying about making terminal patients into drug        BK> addicts is terminal stupidity.              The medical establishment has been making nonterminal patients       into drug addicts for years. Doctors write a scrip for painkillers.       Their patient takes the pills for three to six months, and becomes       addicted. No longer being able to get a scrip for those [legal]       drugs, patients turn to other sources. A few decades ago we called       folks like that `junkies'. Today we call those same folks our       next door neighbors.               BK>>> The other fear is, the drugs will shorten the patient's life.               LL>> Yeah. That's like saying pot will stunt your growth.        LL>> Nobody on painkillers/heroin is going to believe that.               BK> Any patient dying in agony might consider that a blessing.              At least they get a high when going out the door.               BK>>> Chose, 6 weeks of extreme pain, or 4 weeks free from pain. BK>>Not hard        BK> by my thinking.               LL>> Hit me, man! Hit me! I wanna feel good hoo ha!               BK> SMACK! Now behave yourself.              Thanks! I needed that!               LL>> In theory, the same could be done with humans. Would        LL>> cloning humans for body parts be ethical? I doubt it.        LL>> Which is why we should clone neandertals instead.               BK> No, repubicans will do just as well.              I'm not sure anybody would want any of John Boehner's       body parts. I mean, the guy does smoke like a chimney ...              --Lee              --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb        * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)    |
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