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     BK>>>>>> that be considered the dividing line between programming and   
     BK>>>>>> artificial intelligence?   
      
     AK>>> Suppose you have two logical tasks. They can be done both by a   
     AK>>> human or a robot. The dividing line that exists between a human   
     AK>>> and robot lies not in the logic. A live being can feel happiness,   
     AK>>> emotions, love -- in short things that cannot be programmed or   
     AK>>> defined as an algorithm.   
      
     BK>> I don't know whether or not they could someday be programmed,   
     BK>> however, I do see where an artificial intelligence could be a   
     BK>> sociopath.   
      
    AK> Robot will never enjoy to kill humans. But it can be   
    AK> erroneously programed and make mistakes. For instance, in   
      
    Or be programmed that way deliberately.   
      
    AK> its program there can be stated that if someones kill   
    AK> people by thousands they are terrorists and must be killed.   
    AK> And this robot can make a mistake and kill a pack of   
    AK> American soldiers. ;-) Or a robot can decide erroneously   
    AK> that the country under the nuclear attack and start a   
    AK> nuclear war. But all this have nothing to do with bad   
    AK> behavior or evil intelligence of the robot.   
      
    That was the thinking behind the movie "War Games".   
      
    AK> Intelligence cannot be evil. Human feelings can.   
      
    Intelligence alone has no motivation.   
      
    ...   
      
     AK>>> feelings never will be programmed in robots. Because the   
      
     BK>> If you programmed the responses to mimic human feelings to the   
     BK>> point where no one could tell the difference, would there be a   
     BK>> difference?   
      
    AK> If a wax copy of a human resembles him very much -- does it   
    AK> mean that there is no difference? If this wax puppet move   
    AK> its brows and lips will it make it more human? No, of   
    AK> course.   
      
    The question is, if you can't tell the difference, can you say   
    there is a difference.   
      
    ...   
      
     BK>> That is why I am musing on the questions. We do not know much about   
     BK>> it, thus how do we judge it?   
      
    AK> There are some great mystical facts that cannot be either   
    AK> explained or understood by humans. For instance, human   
      
    Cannot yet... but Evolution is still working.   
      
    AK> cannot explain eternity and eternal things. A human thinks   
      
    Give us enough time and we will see what happens.   
      
    AK> that there must be the beginning, and in the same time he   
    AK> affirms constantly that every form of matter is born by   
    AK> another form of matter.   
      
    Ah, we contradict ourselves in our certainty. True.   
      
    ...   
      
     BK>> Not yet. Does intelligence require awareness of self?   
      
    AK> No it doesn't. Every computer program can be called an   
    AK> intelligent object.   
      
    Some I have worked on have been called a lot worse than that.   
      
     BK>> All that I don't believe anyone knows, but a lot of self anointed   
     BK>> philosophers will proclaim their truths as if they were truths.   
      
    AK> It seems to me that many good philosophers just conjectured   
    AK> things.   
      
    I agree.   
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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