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   BOB KLAHN to LEE LOFASO   
   Selling Body Parts   
   04 Dec 14 01:09:00   
   
    BK>> Yep. I am both pro-life and opposed to selling body parts.   
      
    LL> Yet it is okay to sell locks of hair to companies that   
    LL> manufacture wigs.  Some folks choose to donate locks of   
    ...   
    LL> are not opposed to selling or giving away hair, whether   
      
    You can give a kidney away, you just can't sell it.   
      
    ...   
      
    BK>> Wrong, I figured it out long ago.   
      
    LL> If folks can sell or give away hair, why not other body   
    LL> parts?   
      
    Cause you grow back hair. It's not critical ... to most people.   
      
    LL>>> Now back to reality -   
      
    BK>> Ok, who wrote this and signed Lee's name to it?   
      
    LL> The otherworldlee Lee.   
      
    Ok, I believe that. After I checked it with the Men in Black.   
      
      
      
      
    BK>> You called her in 1997?   
      
    LL> The Wayback Machine is a most wonderful device ...   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    BK>> You can donate a kidney if you are alive, and have two good ones.   
      
    LL> You can donate somebody else's kidney and have two   
    LL> good ones.  But if you donate one of your own kidneys,   
    LL> you'd best hope you have one good one left.  :)   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    LL> How is a recipient going to know if he/she is receiving   
    LL> a good body part or a bad body part?  Are body parts given   
    LL> ratings, such as excellent/good/fair/poor?  Did Dick Cheney   
    LL> have a choice of which heart he could get before surgeons   
    LL> implanted him with a new heart?  Or was he just lucky to   
    LL> have gotten a good one rather than another clunker?   
      
      
      
    BK>> All too often the rich get what the poor need.   
      
    LL> Why should the poor receive what the rich need most?   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    BK>> If somebody has the money and is willing to pay the price, the   
    BK>> poor will never get a transplant again.   
      
    LL> So what?  The poor will always be with us.  The rich can   
    LL> at least make a difference, at least while they are still   
    LL> here.  So might as well keep rich folks around for as long   
    LL> as possible.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
    LL> People in third world countries are willing to sell   
    LL> a kidney for $1000.  That might seem cheap to you, but   
    LL> to them that is a fortune.  Denying them the right to   
    LL> sell their own kidneys (or other body parts) would be   
    LL> keeping them in the poorhouse forever.  Denying them   
    LL> any hope of escaping a lifetime of poverty.   
      
      
      
    BK>> Walmart is trying to get into providing health care.   
      
    LL> There is no such thing as providing health care in   
    LL> this country.  What we have is sick care, not health   
    LL> care.   
      
      
      
      
    LL> Walmart, like many other employers, are falling back   
    LL> to using part time employees as a means of getting around   
    LL> Obamacare.  And until this country decides to get real   
    LL> about health care reform, such problems will continue   
    LL> to exist.  Obamacare is not universal health care.   
    LL> It was never designed for that purpose.  What it does   
      
      
      
    LL> is mandates each state to create its own version of   
    LL> Romneycare.  Republicans hate that.  For a Cemocrat   
    LL> to out-Republican Republicans.   
      
      
      
    BK>> Apply that to body parts.   
      
    LL> Walmart selling body parts?  With Mitt Romney   
    LL> their pitch man?  Hmmm...   
      
    BK>> To sell in quantity you have to have a supply of cheap parts.   
      
    BK>> That means a lot of donors/sellers.   
    BK>> With enough sellers you will be able to buy a kidney for $1000. To   
    LL> maintain   
    BK>> that we have to maintain a large number of people in poverty in this   
    BK>> country.   
      
      
    LL> Mormons are missionaries.  For example, Mitt Romney did   
    LL> his missionary work in France.  Not sure how many converts   
    LL> he made, given virtually every Frenchman and Frenchwoman   
    LL> was already a Christian.  But he did learn how to speak   
    LL> French.  And how to kiss no wait a minute Mitt Romney   
    LL> is a family guy and would never French kiss anywone ...   
      
      
      
    BK>> It's hard enough to get a congress owned by the rich to do   
    BK>> anything to help lift people from poverty, with a need for cheap   
    BK>> body parts there will be that much more incentive to keep a   
    BK>> large portion of the population poor.   
      
      
      
    LL> Not to worry.  With Obama everything gonna be free.   
      
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