Hi, BOB KLAHN!   
   I read your message from 12.11.2014 21:06   
      
     BK>>> So, my musing analysis leads to this question, when you reach the   
     BK>>> point where you can't actually tell if a computer's response is   
     BK>>> just a program line, or actual intelligence, can that be   
     BK>>> considered the dividing line between programming and artificial   
     BK>>> intelligence?   
      
   Suppose you have two logical tasks. They can be done both by a human or    
   a robot. The dividing line that exists between a human and robot lies    
   not in the logic. A live being can feel happiness, emotions, love -- in    
   short things that cannot be programmed or defined as an algorithm.   
      
   So, there is no difference between programming and artificial    
   intelligence. And we can also say that human feelings have nothing to do    
   with intelligence, and human feelings never will be programmed in    
   robots. Because the core of the matter is a human consciousness, that is    
   an incorporial thing. More of that, nobody understand it, not speaking    
   about reproduction.   
      
     AK>> A strange question. How do you suppose to create artificial   
     AK>> intelligence without programming? So, according to atheists   
     BK> Well, they would. The question is, when is the programming good   
     BK> enough to be intelligence?   
      
   Making robots is easy. They can do (repeat) any intelligent tasks. But    
   nobody knows how to create consciousness and awareness of self. Or to    
   understand what is inspiration....   
      
   Bye, BOB!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   fido7.debate 2014   
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