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|    BOB KLAHN to ALL    |
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|    27 Oct 14 12:41:00    |
       Long ago I got to musing about, "How do you define God?". Now I        tried to do it from measuring the attributes of God, but how        would you measure them?               Think about Arthur C. Clarks dictum, "Any sufficiently advanced        technology is indistinguishable from magic".               I got to wondering, could you reasonably say, a being so        superior to us that we cannot even understand it's nature or        measure it's abilities be reasonably be called a god? If no, why        not? After all, that seems to be beyond what the measure of the        ancient gods was. All they had to be was immortal and have some        powers beyond human. Any being with a life expectancy of a        thousand years would be immortal as far as anyone of the human        race could tell.               Last night I went to the store to pick up a few items we needed.        On my way back to my car I saw a man carrying a leaking box,        which turned out to be a case of beer that had broken open and        spilled glass bottles on the ground. He was carrying the case        back to the store, I would guess to complain about it breaking        open.               One of the bottles was lying on the driveway broken. My first        thought was, if they don't get someone out here to clean that up        someone could get a flat tire. Then I speculated on the        advancement of security monitoring, and video cameras, and that        before too long they would have a computer monitoring such        things, and it would be programmed to recognize some images as        including actions indicating a problem. In this case, an item        being dropped, and a portion of the contents being left on the        ground. From that it would deduce a hazard left in the parking        lot, and automatically dispatch cleanup.               In turn, that lead to a consideration of artificial        intelligence. Just where do you draw the line between programmed        responses and artifical intelligence? If a computer monitor        noted a customer falling in the parking lot, it could monitor        that person for indications of injury, and either put a        responder on alert, or dispatch one just in case. However, if        that same monitor saw someone lying on the bench at a bus stop        near the highway passing the store, would it dispatch a        responder, or just file it as someone sleeping on the bench?               Next step, if the computer, on a sweep, detected someone lying        in the driveway why would it not flag that as a person sleeping        on the driveway, instead of injured? A child might tell you,        daddy's asleep and he won't wake up, when daddy is dead. It's        easier to program the computer to identify the difference, a        person horizontal on the driveway for more than 15 seconds calls        for a responder. A child learns the difference over years.               The computer can even be programmed to include the ultimately        determined causes of phenomena it observes into it's decisions.        It could even be programmed to use time lapses between observed        situations and results. If every person who falls but is        uninjured gets up within 30 seconds, allow a 30 second delay        before calling a responder. If the person falling clutches his        chest before or while falling is identified repeatedly as a        heart attack, or even found to be one in googling that behavior,        all such cases get an immediate responder dispatch. Noting the        behavior of the person falling would be part of the programming,        but the results would be included by the computer.               Oh, and putting out an arm while falling would mean close        scrutiny for broken bones, and the resulting actions associated        with broken bones. Such observations could be shared among        security computers, thus 'educating' them with what one system        has learned.               So, my musing analysis leads to this question, when you reach        the point where you can't actually tell if a computer's response        is just a program line, or actual intelligence, can that be        considered the dividing line between programming and artificial        intelligence?               All that from one broken case of beer. Oh and one bottle was        left on the driveway unbroken. I picked it up because I thought,        if a car hits that it could get a flat tire.               Sad that, I don't like beer. Nor does my wife. Truly sad.              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... The best thing about the future is, it comes one day at a time.        * Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]       --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5        * Origin: Check Out Doc's QWK Mail Via Web BBS > DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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