...   
      
    BK>> Being insulted is not ground for shooting up the place, and   
    BK>> killing people. It is not grounds for seizing power. Now, how   
    BK>> many Russian people live there? And why are Russians living in   
    BK>> Ukraine and claiming the right to decide who rules the country?   
      
    LL> Who has. the right to decide who gets to stay and who must   
      
    Those who were there first? OK, democracy over all other   
    systems.   
      
    LL> leave? Palestinians claim Israelis stole their land.  And   
      
    The UN did.   
      
    ...   
      
    LL> other peoples from far away were allowed to settle and   
    LL> literally steal that land from the proper owners.   
      
    Those displaced by war often do that, through out history. From   
    what I read, the frightening thing about Attilla the Hun is, he   
    was the loser in the wars where he came from.   
      
    LL> Of course, we did much the same thing in regards to Native   
    LL> Americans, forcing them to live on reservations which we had   
    LL> so conveniently set aside for them.   
      
    Yep.   
      
    LL> Hell, we were so damned nice to Injuns that we denied them   
    LL> the right to vote - until Bill Clinton took office.  And now   
    LL> look at what they are doing to us.  Those same Injuns are   
    LL> taking us to court in order to keep our oil companies from   
    LL> fracking on the land that we gave them to live on!   
      
    Dang it! How come they get it right but our representatives get   
    it so wrong?   
    ...   
      
    BK>> But it was the deaths of at least 88 people, many of them   
    BK>> protesters shot dead by uniformed snipers in 48 hours of   
    BK>> bloodshed, that ultimately brought him down.   
    BK>> ----------------------------------------------------------------   
      
    LL> According to the CIA, Libyans are the most patriotic people   
    LL> on Earth.  For decades, they looked upon their leader as   
    LL> being the most honest and trustworthy man who ever lived.   
      
    Well, since they might be killed for saying anything else...   
      
    ...   
      
    LL> there.  Yes, my friend, Libyans loved Billy Beer, which is   
      
    No wonder they had problems.   
      
    ...   
      
    BK>> Russia maybe not, Putin I'm not so sure of.   
      
    ...   
      
    BK>> Afghanistan was the base for the 9-11 attack. Iraq was a war for   
    BK>> oil. We should have been out of Afghanistan quickly, and never   
    BK>> in Iraq. I was talking about the republican reaction to a screw   
    BK>> up series of wars, vs doing nothing or something now.   
      
    ...   
      
    LL> example, President Bush was warned well ahead of time that   
    LL> terrorists were planning such a strike, yet chose to   
    LL> nothing to prevent it.   
      
    His bosses at the Project for a New American Century over ruled   
    him. It was their excuse to have the war they so long wanted.   
      
    Louis Farrakahn deleted.   
      
    ...   
      
    LL> Did the President know about an impending terrorist attack   
    LL> and deliberately choose to do nothing, knowing no wartime   
    LL> President has ever lost a bid for re-election?  Did   
      
    Hid daddy did, but he ended his war too soon.   
      
    LL> is Minister Farrakhan full of bunk?   
      
    Yes.   
      
    ...   
      
    AK>>> It is not correct. Ask people from Israel or the US what an   
    AK>>> invasion looks like. So far you can't tell of Russian   
    AK>>> "invasion". People must be very accurate in such things.   
      
    BK>> Putin has backed off. However, it certainly appeared he wanted   
    BK>> to cut the Ukraine up.   
      
    LL> It was never Putin's intention to invade Ukraine.   
      
    He might not have intended to, he probably figured it would all   
    be done by proxy.   
      
    ...   
      
    LL> The US Congress authorized the use of force in regards to   
    LL> Iraq so that President Bush could force Saddam Hussein to   
    LL> back down - thus allowing UN inspectors to continue their   
    LL> work in Iraq. How did that work out?  Instead of diplomacy,   
      
    That part worked out perfectly.   
      
    LL> our fine President chose WAR.  We were the aggressor.  Iraq   
    LL> did not attack the US. We attacked Iraq.   
      
    That was the catch, the Bush puppet masters never intended   
    anything but invasion.   
      
    LL> Did Russia invade Crimea?  No.   
    LL> Did Russia invade Ukraine?  No.   
      
    LL> The people of Crimea made their own choice to join Russia.   
    LL> Nobody forced them to do that.  A vote was held, and it was   
    LL> really no contest.   
      
    There is no way to really know that. Who counted the votes?   
      
    ...   
      
    So nice to have your absurdities back.   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
   ... History is a base to build on not a quagmire in which to become immersed.   
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