Hi, Lee Lofaso!   
   I read your message from 14.07.2014 16:51   
      
      
     LL>>>> May we all live in a land of idiots.   
     GH>>> I'm sure we already do. :) "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,   
     GH>>> the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent   
     GH>>> virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill   
      
     AK>> But capitalism is the unequal sharing of welfare and creating   
     AK>> misery and slaves artificially. ;-)   
      
     LF> The "cesspool capitalism" that Karl Marx described was very real in   
     LF> his day, but fortunately for all is a thing of the past.   
      
   OK, now you are prefer to exploit the barefoot misery from Thailand,    
   Philippines, Malaysia etc. But the rule remains -- you must not allow    
   misery to vanish, or it will be the end for you. Capitalism needs misery    
   as a human body needs blood, as a battery cell needs two electrodes.   
      
      
     AK>> If they will be out of it, it will be a nightmare scenario and the   
     AK>> end of the potential difference that is necessary for survival of   
     AK>> the capitalistic system.   
      
     LF> And what kind of economic system will you replace it with? Assuming   
     LF> you had the power to do so. Would it be a blast to the past, with a   
     LF> "pure" form of feudalism such as the time when we had kings,   
     LF> nobles, lords, and serfs? Would it be a personality cult, such as   
     LF> Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now, Josef Stalin in the USSR, Marshall   
     LF> Tito in Yugoslavia, Mao Tse Tung in China, or Adolf Hitler in Nazi   
     LF> Germany?   
      
   Well, to answer this question you should read books about future. I mean    
   science-fiction novels. Tell me what the people dream of, and I'll tell    
   you who they are. The science-fiction in the West is mainly based  on    
   paranoid ideas about the end of the world -- you cannot imagine anything    
   instead of it. You cannot image that your civilization can have some    
   bright future.   
      
   Vise versa, people from former Socialist countries saw a great vista    
   where their countries could move on. The idea is simple -- a system and    
   order at the state level are always more effective that anarchy of the    
   free market. Just remember -- when the US wanted to beat the USSR during    
   the Moon race they didn't expect that private business could solve such    
   a great task. Actually, the US started working in the manner of the USSR    
   -- it created a huge _state_ Moon program, planning, financing etc.    
   Planning economy in this case proved brightly its effectiveness.   
      
   So the conclusion -- the planning economy, if it is realized not by    
   fools, is always more effective than private business. The future is for    
   this economy. The US has no future (unless it becomes Socialist country    
   -)) , but China with its state economy has a great future. It has put    
   the private business where it should be -- at low level like service    
   stuff, shops etc.   
      
   The main task such countries as Russia, Chine must solve - is how to    
   defend the state machinery from idiots and cretins. The most effective    
   way we see now in China -- its Communist party doesn't rely any more    
   upon Great Leaders like Stalin, Mao Zedong etc. State decisions are made    
   by many, not very old, clever people who think about all people, not    
   only rich. That is why a huge ship the "China" runs so fast in the world    
   waters.   
      
   Bye, Lee!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   fido7.debate 2014   
   --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds   
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