-=> Roy Witt wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-   
      
    RW> @MSGID: <534D673D.196.2debate@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>   
    RW> Greetings Bill!   
      
    BM> -=> Roy Witt wrote to Ward Dossche <=-   
      
    RW>> @MSGID: <534C89ED.6775.2fidonews@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>   
    RW>> @REPLY: <534C54A8.6771.2fidonews@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>   
      
    RW> Is this shit necessary^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
      
   I just wanted to give you something that you could legitimately complain about.   
       
      
    BM>>> Funny, the American Medical Association and all the doctors on the   
    BM>>> site you plagerized seem to agree with me that fertilization can   
    BM>>> occur while a woman takes the pill.   
      
    WD>> The pill isn't fail-safe. The wrapper inside the packaging says so.   
      
    RW>> Of course, Bill didn't supply any MDA source to back up his   
    RW>> information, so his is a doubtful statement at best. Watch, he'll   
    RW>> come up with something from his wiki homepage and call it legit.   
      
    BM> Roy, you need to go back and take a refresher course on reading   
    BM> comprehension. IF you got your head out of your ass you'd have seen I   
    BM> referenced a doctor on the very site that Tim plagerized,   
      
    RW> Tim didn't plagerize that site, he used " ", nor did you supply a link   
    RW> to what you were babbling on about.   
      
    BM>  WebMd and the doctor reiterated my position that the pill is not a   
    BM> 100% guarantee the egg won't get fertilized.   
      
    RW> Without a link, this is just blowing in the wind.   
      
   Ahhh, you need to review my last message about this.  It's obvious you missed   
   the links I posted showing both Tim's plagerism and the one where the doctor   
   states the effectiveness of the pill is not 100% as you state.  Now, being I   
   know your silly little games, if I go back and show you you'll just say I added   
   it after the fact so why even give you that opportunity.  I know what I wrote   
   and it's not my issue if you either can't read or comprehend my words.  Go back   
   to school.   
      
   BTW, simply adding " " to a statement doesn't actually give the author the   
   credit they deserve.  Either a footnote or a link would do it. Neither of which   
   Tim used.  Now, funny how you believe him when he didn't use a link but raise   
   hell with me when I did and you so convientently missed it.  Who's blowing in   
   the wind now Roy...   
      
      
    BM> Do you now doubt the words of a learned professional in the field of   
    BM> medicine?   
      
    RW> Without a link to the actual statement, coming from you, I would doubt   
    RW> that the moon isn't made of cheese if you said so.   
      
   Go do your own reasearch then.  Fact still remains taking birth control pills   
   doesn't guarantee an egg will not get fertilized.  You think differently, show   
   me a link that states with a 100% guarantee it won't.  You asked for proof, I   
   gave it.  Now you show me some proof from a board certified physician.    
      
    RW>> The manufacturers describe what is in their pill, what it does and   
    RW>> the theory of how it works to use it to prevent a pregnancy.   
      
    RW>> Planned Parenthood warns that if you don't take your BC pill   
    RW>> everyday at the same time of day, 1-in-100 of those who don't may   
    RW>> get pregnant each year. Not will, but maybe.   
      
    BM> Oh, now you're quoting planned parenthood.   
      
    RW> And offering a link to what they have to say about it. You haven't and   
    RW> you never have.   
      
   The only reason you put a link there was due to I called you out on it and this   
   is your childish attempt at turning the tables.  Not going to work Roy...   
   you've been outed.   
      
    BM> Guess when they suit your needs you'll use them.   
      
    RW> Since they're of your own ilk, how can you doubt their word?   
      
    BM> How convinent. I'll need to remember that the next time you say   
    BM> planned parenthood are just another liberal backed socialistic   
    BM> program.   
      
    RW> It is...but you aren't going to say anything against their liberal   
    RW> backing or their suggestions on BC because that's, well, you.   
      
   I'm sure that's there but I know you just picked and choose what you wanted.    
   You talk about odds, most Powerball/Mega Millions has a 1 in 175 million chance   
   of someone winning yet, people do.    
      
    RW>> If you follow the manufacturer's instructions, your chances of   
    RW>> getting pregnant are nill. Those are pretty good odds in my book.   
    RW>> And as they describe the theory, the pill prevents ovulation, as Tim   
    RW>> has already said.   
      
    BM> Nill?  The physician   
      
    RW> What physician?   
      
    BM>  said there was a possible 5% chance a woman could become pregnant   
    BM> while using the pill.   
      
    RW> To reiterate, when using the pill as prescribed...If you take it   
    RW> willy-nilly, then your chances are more than 5% that you will.   
      
    BM> If you further read the link I posted to Tim,   
      
    RW> You didn't post any link, period.   
      
   You really are persistant....   
      
    BM> I wonder when you were a machinist if you would have told your boss   
    BM> the part you just made had a nill chance of not fitting.   
      
    RW> Been there, done that. Got a partnership on a pattent for my effort.   
      
   Congrats... was it by chance?  Afterall, nill chance is in your vocabulary when   
   it comes to possible fertilization of an egg I figured you rolled that over to   
   your work.  Tell me something, have you ever thrown a piece of steel away when   
   you cutting it on a lathe?  Careful how you answer this Roy, because if you say   
   no you'd be the only one in history.  Your picture should hang in the   
   Smithstonian.     
      
    BM> Were/are you that type of machinist Roy? If so, I'd never use you.   
      
    RW> If you want it to be right, you would want to use me as your machinist,   
    RW> I'm a perfectionist in that regard. I wouldn't want you as a customer,   
    RW> but that's beside the point.   
      
      
   A perfectionist using the word "nill".     
      
    RW>> www.plannedparenthood.org   
      
    BM>>> You've administered pills ...   
      
    WD>> Actually, what he did without the proper knowledge or training, is   
    WD>> to   
      
    RW>> You don't know that, since Tim hasn't said so.   
      
    RW>> I know where Tim worked (Grossmont Hospital in La Mesa, CA or one of   
    RW>> their campus') and have had the opportunity to witness such   
    RW>> procedures by other 'technicians' in that field.   
      
    RW>> See, in the USA, we have doctors, RN (nurses), LVNs and 'pink   
    RW>> ladies' as they were called there because they wore pink outfits and   
    RW>> were not of the medical field, just technicians that administered   
    RW>> meds among their other duties as such.   
      
    RW>> I'd say that if they can read plain English (if you can call a   
    RW>> doctor's writing as such), they're following a Doctor's prescribed   
    RW>> medication order for him. Which they are allowed to do by state law.   
      
    WD>> administer a product for which he's not licensed and of which the   
    WD>> hormone imbalance can have lethal effects.   
      
    RW>> What Tim did was follow instructions given to him that were in   
    RW>> compliance with California state law and his employer. Been there,   
    RW>> done that, have the T shirt.   
      
    BM> I agreed with what you said regarding Tim's administering the pills   
    BM> according to the physicians orders but the fact remains, the   
    BM> possibility of a fertilized egg being expelled due to the   
    BM> inhospitality of the uterus,   
      
    RW> Of course, there isn't much possibility of that happening, unless the   
    RW> egg was fertilized before she began to take the pill. Once the pill is   
    RW> in her system, the hormones in it will stop ovulation.   
      
   Wrong again... but as I've been saying in previous posts, your issue with NPD   
   blinds you from that fact.    
      
      
    BM> Tim should have, according to Tim's own beliefs, recused himself due   
    BM> to morality grounds according to the 1st Amendment he tosses so   
    BM> freely around.   
      
    RW> Since Tim was there and you weren't, he fully knows how the pill works   
    RW> and he also knows that issuing that pill to a patient is what the   
    RW> doctor ordered, not Tim.   
      
    RW> It's kinda like when your ancestors were told to pay their debt or go   
    RW> to debtors prison, they didn't get out of prison until the debt was   
    RW> paid. If they fled to America, that didn't excuse the debt. If they   
    RW> were found in the colonies, they were sent back to debtors prison. The   
    RW> only person who didn't go to debtors prison was the person who handed   
    RW> you the goods or money.   
      
   What does debtors prison have to do with his morals when it comes to aborting a   
   fertilized egg?    
      
    BM> That was my point and it is fact as stated by Tim.  Spin it all you   
    BM> like Roy is not going to change the facts.   
      
    RW> Anything that Tim had to say about it is according to what I know as a   
    RW> California citizen who has worked with doctors in prescribing meds to   
    RW> their patients. It is not up to Tim or I to go against doctor's orders.   
    RW> And his employer will enforce that, if he doesn't.   
      
    RW>> The hormone imbalance you speak of is for a doctor to assess and no   
    RW>> one else. In any case, the PILL is as safe to use as an aspirin, no   
    RW>> license required to administer, just a Doctor's prescribed written   
    RW>> order on a patient's chart. The procedure may differ in Belgum, but   
    RW>> that's how it works in California.   
      
    BM> I agree.... things maybe different in Belgium.   
      
    RW> You only agree because you know that you've been wrong all along.   
      
   Roy Roy Roy.... you oblivious fool.... you really don't have a clue other than   
   beating your chest thinking you have all the answers.  Tim never quoted his   
   source, quotes around a statement does not mean shit in the text based world.    
   You seem to wish things true when it comes to proving your point that I didn't   
   use a link when not only did I provide a link for Tim's plagerizism, in the   
   past I've posted links for your plagerism.  Seek help.  Lord knows I tried to   
   help steer you in the right direction.   
      
   Be well...    
      
      
      
      
   Bill   
      
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