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   Lee Lofaso to BOB KLAHN   
   Democracy Explained to Kids   
   19 Sep 13 21:02:48   
   
   Hello Bob,   
      
    LL>> On MSNBC, Chris Matthews made a statement that no   
    LL>> Republicans were invited.  Michael Steel then corrected   
    LL>> him, explaining how the organizers of the event ran the   
    LL>> show.  Steel's explanation was, in effect, the same as what   
    LL>> you wrote.   
      
   BK>Scott notified the organizers ahead of time he would not be   
   BK>there.   
      
   The point is, many Republicans could have spoken at the event,   
   had they chosen to do so.   
      
    LL>> Because no Republicans spoke at the event, it gave the   
    LL>> appearance that Republicans do not care about black folks,   
    LL>> or about MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech.  Of course,   
    LL>> appearances can be deceiving, as it is silly to think that   
    LL>> all/many/most Republicans are racist.   
      
   BK>Strom Thurmond had a black daughter he saw to it was well taken   
   BK>care of,   
      
   Strom Thurmond was a very loving man, having a love child to prove   
   it.  Not only that, but unlike many black men, Strom Thurmond was not   
   a deadbeat dad.  So don't you go around telling anybody that Strom   
   Thurmond was a racist who did not care about black folks.  He loved   
   them.  He loved them very much ...   
      
   BK>George Wallace said it was all politics, yet Thurmond was surely   
   BK>a racist and Wallace played one so well it looks like he really was.   
      
   In his autobiography, George C. Wallace claims he never used the   
   N-word in public.  It was probably a true statement, although   
   impossible to verify.  Some of his speeches were written by racists,   
   but does that mean Wallace was a racist himself?  In his first run   
   for public office, he ran as a liberal, losing the election.  From   
   that point on, he told the people what they wanted to hear, winning   
   several terms as governor of Alabama, and had it not been for a   
   would-be assassin's bullet hitting his spine, would have sent George   
   McGovern back to South Dakota and Richard Nixon back to California.   
   As things turned out, Wallace paved the way for another Southerner   
   to become President - Jimmy Carter.  And what a great President he was!   
      
    BM>> between the elite and the serfs.  They speak of the Dems creating BM>the   
    BK> rift but if you look at the entire picture, the reason most BM>people   
   think   
    BK> this icountry  s turning towards socialism/communism BM>is very simply   
    BK> explained, AKorporate  merika wants it that way.   
      
    LL>> I was using affirmative action as an example.  For a deeper   
    LL>> understanding of how corporations interact among national   
    LL>> security and social welfare policy, you might want to read   
    LL>> "Thinking Through the Cold War", by David Jardin, free   
    LL>> download from smashwords.com   
      
   BK>Nah... I don't really.   
      
   And I thought you were a glutton for punishment ...   
      
    BM>> happened many years ago.  When the Irish immigrated here they were   
    BM>> considered a lower species than the blacks.  Every race (and yes,   
    BM>> nationality is considered a race, not just color) has had that issue.   
      
   BK>As the signs said, no colored or Irish need apply.   
      
   What about Cajuns?  Cajuns have been here even before Americans   
   arrived.  Maybe we should decide who is the lower species rather   
   than them.  But please.  Do not tell that to Native Americans.   
      
    LL>> Sure.  Discrimination exists among all races, both within   
    LL>> and between. Andrew Young once said, "We are all racists   
    LL>> and bigots."  I tend to agree with that view, with the   
    LL>> caveat it is what we do (as individuals and a people) to   
    LL>> overcome that racism and bigotry that is important. That   
    LL>> was Andrew Young's real message, or what he was trying to   
    LL>> convey to others.   
      
   BK>Sounds about right.   
      
   Affirmative action is a form of discrimination.  A kind of   
   discrimination many people are in favor of.  Especially black   
   Americans.  Should we do away with affirmative action?  If   
   we do, blacks will accuse us of being racists.  And lets not   
   forget about those who claim reverse discrimination.  Funny   
   that black folks claim discrimination and white folks claim   
   reverse discrimination.  Even though Dr. Martin Luther King   
   Jr. said there is no difference between black racists and   
   white racists.  I guess The Good Doctor didn't know what he   
   was talking about ...   
      
    BM>> LOL.... irony as it's best... vote for the man who doesn't give a   
    BM>> rat's ass about you.   
      
    LL>> You have to remember - we boil our crawfish LIVE.  :)   
      
    BM>> When is Jindal on the menu?   
      
   BK>He's on the republican's menu.   
      
   When we pick up our crawfish, they are brown.  We heat up the water   
   to the point of boiling, put them in a pot, and cook them live until   
   they turn bright red.  And then we eat 'em, in true Cajun fashion -   
   we pinch da tails and suck da heads.   
      
   After we eat the crawfish, we save the shells.  But only the shells   
   of the heads.  The other shells are discarded.  After cleaning the   
   head shells, we use them to make crawfish bisque.  This is a most   
   excellent dish, but takes a lot of time and patience to make.  It   
   also takes more boiled crawfish to obtain the meat to put into the   
   shells.  Which is why it always takes at least two crawfish boils   
   to make a crawfish bisque.   
      
    LL>> In the latest poll, Les Miles and Nick Saban are rated   
    LL>> higher than Bobby Jindal.  Les Miles I can understand.  But   
    LL>> Nick Saban is hated in these parts, pretty much on the same   
    LL>> level as the devil himself.  Jindal should consider himself   
    LL>> blessed that he cannot run for a third consecutive term for   
    LL>> governor.  :)   
      
   BK>To lose to someone hated so much would be bad. OTOH, you said   
   BK>Saban is hated on the same level as the devil. Since we are   
   BK>talking about republicans, isn't that a high rating?   
      
   Look at it this way.  Alabama has the devil for a football coach,   
   whose favorite color is red.  Louisiana (LSU) has the mad hatter for   
   a football coach, whose favorite food is munching on grass.  Jindal   
   claims his favorite food is chocolate chip cookies.  However, being   
   a conservative Republican, Jindal does not know what he is missing,   
   never having topped those chocolate chip cookies with a liberal   
   squirt of cheese whiz ...   
      
   --Lee   
      
   --- MesNews/1.06.00.00-gb   
    * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)   

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