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|    BOB KLAHN to JOHN FITZGERALD    |
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|    17 Aug 13 22:54:16    |
       Son of a gun! John, so good to hear from you.               ->> ...              ->> Actually, American history books do not describe Vietnam as a       ->> victory for America. And we know the US lost the war. Not all       ->> know it, but most of us do.               JF> We could have won that war if we 'wanted to'. Do you really               I agree. Only one major difference needed, we had to fight the        war for the benefit of the South Vietnamese, instead of for out        own purposes. If we weren't fighting it for them why were we        there in the first place?               JF> think we "lost" the war because the Viet Cong had a more        JF> formidable military the the U.S.? We could have wiped them               The US military won every major engagement, and pretty much all        the lesser ones.               JF> out any time we pleased. Why didn't we? Do the math. It was        JF> not economically feasible for the U.S. to pursue the war               That is the cost of a 10 year war.               JF> any further. The Viet Nam war was waged simply to gauge        JF> Soviet response and to keep tabs on their military        JF> capabilities.               That I don't believe. The SU was not giving the NVs enough early        enough to mean anything. By the time they did we had so far        outpaced them they were primative by comparison.               JF> During that war 100's of newly developed        JF> weapons were beta tested. Esp as concerns the Air Force.               And that is what scared the hell out of the Soviets. Not only        did we put men and money into that war, developed tech and        training and experience that put us far ahead, but we did it all        the while keeping our home economy growing and even reduced the        debt to GDP ratio. All a measure of the superiority of our        system.               JF> Same with the (then) U.S.S.R. What a wonderful world...               The USSR had to spend a fortune to try to keep up with us.        Before the war the Soviets were spending a lot more of their GDP        on the military, and they doubled it through the war. They        didn't spend it on weapons for the Nort Vietnamese, but on their        own weapons as they realized how far ahead we were.               Our military spending went up much less than double during the        war, and after the war our spending went back down to near what        it was before. The Soviet spending stayed up there, and didn't        come down until the mid 80s. *THAT* is what broke the Soviet        Union. Our economy was so much better than theirs that they went        broke trying to do what we did, and not even coming close. It        took a couple decades, but it destroyed the Soviet Union.               And that is something to consider when thinking about the        Vietnam War.                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... We secretly replaced the dilithium crystals with Folgers crystals.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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