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|    Lee Lofaso to JOHN FITZGERALD    |
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|    18 Aug 13 02:53:31    |
      Hello John,               AK>>> ;=) Well, well, who doubts around the world that        AK>>> American history books tell that the Vietnam war was        AK>>> victorious for the US? Propaganda doesn't allow the        AK>>> opposite, especially if the opposite is humiliating.               ->> Actually, American history books do not describe Vietnam as a        ->> victory for America. And we know the US lost the war. Not all        ->> know it, but most of us do.              JF>We could have won that war if we 'wanted to'.              America never loses a war. You know that. Just like Superheroes       never lose a fight. Think about it. Superman never kills (the real       Superman, not that faker in the last movie). Superman always catches       Lex Luther. And yet, Superman lets Lex Luther live! Even though       Superman has clearly won the fight! Good always triumphs over Evil!       Especially when you are Superman!              America has fought just about every country in the world.       America has won every war it has ever fought.       America fought, and defeated, Germany, twice.       And today Germany is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Japan.       and today Japan is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Italy.       And today Italy is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Mexico.       And today Mexico is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Korea.       And today half of Korea is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Iraq, twice.       And today Iraq is our very best friend.       America fought, and defeated, Afghanistan.       And today Osama bin Laden is dead.       Pakistan is part of Afghanistan, is it not?       No matter.       Osama bin Laden is still dead.       And that is all that counts.       For now.              JF>Do you really think we "lost" the war because the Viet Cong had       JF>a more formidable military the the U.S.?              American soldiers returned home with a tail between their legs as       Vietnamese soldiers (and people) remained in Vietnam waving good-bye       to their American friends. Was it the mighty Viet Cong the reason       as to why the US left? Or was it because of the peace treaty agreed       upon by by President Nixon and his Vietnamese counterparts? Actually,       Henry Kissinger signed it, with Nixon's approval.              JK>We could have wiped them out any time we pleased. Why didn't we?              We atomized Hiroshima. The Japanese people are still in Hiroshima.       We atomized Nagasaki. The Japanese people are still in Nagasaki.       We could have done the same to every city in Japan. And yet, the       Japanese would still be in Japan. President Truman knew that.       Emperor Hirohito knew that. As such, President Truman wisened up       and started to target Russia. Fortunately for Russians, Joe Stalin       knew what President Truman was up too and wisely decided to call       off his planned invasion of Japan.              We did not get to that point with Vietnam, as Mao Tse-Tung knew       better than to invade Vietnam, thus saving billions of Chinese.              JF>Do the math.              Vietnamese - 25 million.       Chinese - 1.5 billion              JK>It was not economically feasible for the U.S. to pursue the war any       JK>further.              President Nixon went to Beijing and made a deal with Mao Tse-Tung,       explaining to Chairman Mao what President Truman had done as a means       of threatening Russia. Fortunately for billions of Chinese, Chairman       Mao listened to President Nixon and did as he was told. When President       Nixon returned to America, he gave Henry Kissinger the go-ahead to       sign the peace treaty (prepared in 1969 by LBJ) with Vietnam.              JF>The Viet Nam war was waged simply to gauge Soviet response and to       JF>keep tabs on their military capabilities.              That is pure fantasy. President Nixon and President Brezhnev had       a very close and intimate relationship, especially during the time       they shared in San Clemente, California. But that's another story,       for another day.              JF>During that war 100's of newly developed weapons were beta tested.              You are talking about Skunk Works, which is located at Area 51.       I cannot reveal any further details, given the nature               JF> Esp as concerns the Air Force. Same        JF> with the (then) U.S.S.R. What a wonderful world...              nelpciagotmehelphelpmehelpme              --Lee              --- MesNews/1.06.00.00-gb        * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)    |
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