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|    BOB KLAHN to LEE LOFASO    |
|    Trayvon Martin    |
|    06 Aug 13 11:34:14    |
       ...              BK>>As to the outcome, the prosecution was so inept, so incompetent,       BK>>it appears the prosecutor didn't want to win that case. She felt       BK>>she had to take it to trial, but winning it might have been bad       BK>>for her politically. So she overcharged and conducted the worst       BK>>prosecution she could. Or so it appears.               LL> It was a weak case to begin with. Especially for second        LL> degree murder. Even for manslaughter was a stretch, given        LL> Florida's stand               No, it was actually a good case for manslaughter. Remember, you        have no right to detain someone without good evidence of a        serious crime. I don't know about Florida, but here you can't        make a citizen's arrest for a misdemeanor. He couldn't even make        that charge against Martin. Suspicion is not enough for the        police to hold you, certainly not for a community watch        volunteer.               Then he chased Martin. Just following he might justify, but        chasing is way out of line. That alone is enough to make the        case that Zimmerman was responsible. It's negligent homicide.               LL> your ground law. On top of that, the jury was confused by        LL> the instructions given when going into deliberations.               One of the Jurors who did speak said some of them, at least,        were convinced he was guilty, but the judges instructions forced        them to vote not guilty. The judge's instructions were        incompetent. Since Stand Your Ground was not at issue, he never        should have instructed them that Zimmerman didn't have to        retreat.               LL> Rather than explain the instructions, the judge instructed        LL> the jurors to read them again. Why? Because the judge did        LL> not want to take the chance on the case being declared a        LL> mistrial by not fully explaining the instructions. Best to        LL> let the jurors figure that out for themselves.               That's the exact opposite of what would cause a mistrial. The        jury cannot be expected to interpret legal instructions on their        own. Which makes it look like the judge wanted a not guilty        verdict. If they had convicted the defense would have had        grounds for an appeal for that alone.                                          BK>>That case stinks of politics from the beginning. The shooter is              BK>>the son of a retired judge. The original detective wanted to       BK>>charge him with manslaughter. A cop on the scene called it       BK>>negligent manslaughter in his report. Yet it wasn't even                             LL> Although conspiracy theories abound, this case was no        LL> conspiracy. A certain ineptness by the prosecutor, to be        LL> sure. But ineptness is not a conspiracy. Nor is a weak        LL> case.                             LL> either. And it certainly does not mean it would have been        LL> a slam dunk had the prosecutor only charged Zimmerman with        LL> manslaughter.              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... The problem is jobs... the solution is jobs...       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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