RC> 28 Jul 13 11:44, you wrote to me:   
      
    RC>>> Zimmerman was tried and convicted by the press before the   
    RC>>> real trial began.   
      
    BK>>  As compared to his being exonerated by politicians and his   
    BK>>  father's buddies before the investigation was completed.   
      
    RC> Actually it was determined by the local police and   
    RC> prosecutor that there wasnt enough evidence..   
      
    One of the officers on the scene, Ayala, wrote it up as   
    manslaughter, as did the original investigating detective.   
      
    Again, the prosecutor had no business shutting down the   
    investigation that soon. However, the prosecutor is an elected   
    office.   
      
    RC> The trial that did result bears this out too!   
      
    The trial evidence did not. At least one juror said she thought   
    he was guilty, but the judge's instructions left them no choice   
    but to vote not-guilty.   
      
    The prosecution was so inept it appears they wanted to lose.   
      
    RC>>> There are also cases involving role reversals that didnt   
    RC>>> gain the media monsters attention. Two black teenagers   
      
    BK>>  IOW, excuse one because another happened. What does media   
    BK>>  attention matter? The only reason Martin got media attention was   
    BK>>  Zimmerman was let go, without even an attempt to bring it to   
    BK>>  trial, despite two cops writing it up as manslaughter.   
      
    RC> Yes a master consopiracy, one is a racist if they are white.   
      
    How does Zimmerman's family connections amount to an accusation   
    of racism?   
      
    BK>>  How much do you know about the white man in Toledo they just   
    BK>>  arrested in the disappearance of a young white child? The child   
    BK>>  is believed to be dead, and at the least they do have a good   
    BK>>  child endangerment charge against the man and the girl's mother.   
      
    RC> Here is the appearance I see given...   
      
    What does that have to do with what I asked?   
      
    RC> Murder Victims are assigned points depending on their race   
    RC> and the race of their assailant.. Scale 1 to 10   
      
    RC> Victim Race          Assailant Race         Points   
    RC> ===========          ==============         ======   
      
    RC> Black                White                  10   
    RC> Black                Black                  3   
    RC> White                White                  2   
    RC> White                Black                  1   
      
    RC> Now this chart is over the top, but I am speaking of how   
    RC> things *seem* to me.   
      
    That is about the point value of getting away with a Stand Your   
    Ground Defense in Florida, except for the spread being too wide.   
    Other than that, it has no point in this discussion.   
      
    RC> You are so full of white guilt that you refuse to see that   
      
    What does that have to do with this discussion?   
      
    RC> a demographic that is only 15% of the total population is   
    RC> responsible for 50% of the total mursers... That of same   
      
    What does that have to do with this discussion?   
      
    RC> demographic 85% of all crimes committed against them are   
    RC> done by others of same demographic.   
      
    Same point applies to white people, so what? What does this have   
    to do with this discussion?   
      
    RC> WE dont see any bitching there...   
      
    RC> What really irks me is the deaths of those black teens in   
    RC> Chicago somehow doesnt rise to the same level of tragic of   
    RC> the Martin case.   
      
    That irks black people as well, what does that have to do with   
    this discussion? Black people have been complaining about the   
    lack of attention to the killings of young blacks for years.   
      
    RC>>> A black man part of a neighborhood watch program shoots and   
    RC>>> kills a white assailant, he was tried and acquitted..   
      
    BK>>  Yes, if he was truly an assailant.   
      
    RC> Zimmerman shouldnt have been there, Martin didnt have to   
    RC> turn and attack..   
      
    There is no evidence Martin turned and attacked.   
      
    RC>>> The Justice system only works when the verdict/decision   
    RC>>> goes our way!!!   
      
    BK>>  How about the case gets investigated deeply? How about the   
    BK>>  father's status as a retired judge, and the mother's position as   
    BK>>  a court clerk, are not a consideration? How about the   
    BK>>  prosecutor's don't shut the case down when two cops have written   
    BK>>  it up as manslaughter, without further investigation?   
      
    RC> In the Roderick Scott case, rolls reversed verdict went   
    RC> same way, you like verdict... Stand Your Ground and all..   
      
    Except for the fact that very little you said stands up. Scott   
    was arrested immediately, charged, tried for manslaughter.   
      
    The teenager was committing a crime. Scott was on his own   
    property, and did not chase the kid.   
      
    Zimmerman was far from his own property, chased Martin, and   
    Martin was not committing a crime. Zimmerman was not arrested   
    and was not charged and was not brought to trial until the   
    public outcry.   
      
    And New York does *NOT* have a stand your ground law.   
      
    Zimmerman has none of the evidence in his favor Scott did.   
      
    Completely different.   
      
    RC> Dont chastize Zimmerman for picking his parents, the state   
    RC> got its day in court, the evidence was shaky...   
      
    The evidence was good, the prosecution was shaky.   
      
    RC> Had the original manslaughter stood, acquittal rendered,   
    RC> you all would still be carrying on...   
      
    What does that mean?   
      
    RC> Look Bob, the death of anyone excepting reasonable   
    RC> exceptions is tragic, a criminal taking the life of a   
    RC> victim is tragic, its HATE! The race baiters better   
    RC> recognize this.   
      
    Yet you insist on comparing a case of a man who had sound and   
    undisputed evidence in his favor, including two living witnesses   
    who were friends of the victim, and no connections, with a man   
    who had already provoked a response, had no witnesses to what he   
    did, and political connections.   
      
    Somehow someone stepping out his own door, seeing three people   
    in the act of committing a crime, standing on his own property,   
    and having two hostile witnesses still alive is not the same as   
    someone who is no where near his home, observes someone going   
    about his lawful business walking home, follows him, chases him,   
    then doesn't have one single living witness to what happened.   
      
    Not even close to the same.   
      
      
      
      
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