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|    BOB KLAHN to LEE LOFASO    |
|    Japanese Common Sense    |
|    13 Jun 13 02:33:56    |
       ...               LL>>> or ethnicity. Why did the Japanese choose to help the Jews when so        LL>>> many others (including Americans) chose otherwise? Maybe, just maybe,        LL>>> it had something to do with religion? Or at the very least a sense        LL>>> of human decency.              WD>>I think you need to start reading "The Rape of Nanking" by Iris       WD>>Chang and learn about the attrocities committed by the Japanese when       WD>>entering the Chinese city of Nanking and slaughtering 300,000       WD>>civilians in that town alone.               In my critique of Lee's sentence above, I missed that point completely.               LL> Just because a handful of Japanese military men got carried        LL> away does not mean that an entire people was at fault. And        LL> lets not forget what we did to innocent Japanese citizens,        LL> nuking TWO of their cities - just because we could. Makes        LL> me real proud to be an American ... NOT!              WD>>Another interesting fact is that several of Japan's WW2 war       WD>>criminals who were convicted at the eastern version of the Nurnberg       WD>>war trials and executed, are still being revered as heroes in a       WD>>shrine.               Plus the prediction of an invasion death toll estimated at a million.               LL> Of course those Japanese "war criminals" were convicted in        LL> our kangaroo courts and executed. What else would you have        LL> expected?               That they were guilty? I suspect the victims thought so.               LL> Saddam Hussein mocked his Shiite executioners by asking        LL> them just before they hanged him, "Is this manly?" What a        LL> brave man he was, hitting the nail on the head with that        LL> comment.               Or was he just nutso?               LL> Imagine what Adolf Hitler would have said had the Jews been        LL> able to capture him alive. Imagine what Adolf Eichmann        LL> said after the Jews kidnapped him and convicted him in an        LL> Israeli kangaroo court, executed him by hanging, and        LL> finally cremating him then throwing his ashes into the        LL> Mediterranean Sea.               Eichman said, "I go happily into my grave, knowing I have sent six million        Jews there before me."               Hitler would have just spent his time complaining about all those American        soldiers who would not stop smoking just because he complained.               LL> How is any of that "justice"? Having a Shiite hit squad        LL> execute your enemy just because you could? That is what               Saddam did deserve it. Regardless of the other mistakes we made there.               LL> our sorry excuse of a president did. Having a bunch of        LL> angry Jews execute your enemey just because you could?        LL> That is what the Mossad did, along with their Jewish        LL> brethren, totally disregarding international law.               Eichman never denied what he did, he was proud of it.               LL> There is no real "justice" in this world. Only "revenge".        LL> You know it, I know it, and everybody else knows it. So        LL> why not admit what should be obvious to all?               That bad guys deserve to be punished?               LL> It makes us feel good to kill people. Especially people        LL> who we claim have done bad things. Emotionally, we cannot        LL> help ourselves. It is our nature to kill, whether we do it        LL> ourselves or have somebody else do it for us. We just do        LL> not like to admit it.               Which is disproven over and over, by those who cannot bring themselves to        kill, and by those who agonize for years, or a lifetime, when they have to        kill and do.               LL> We have the death penalty in the USA. Both at the federal        LL> level, and also in most (but not all) states. The majority        LL> of people here are in favor of the death penalty, as they               I doubt you can prove that. And the death penalty fails over and over when        juries are given the choice of life without parole.               LL> feel (rightly or wrongly) that those who are put to death        LL> deserve to die. However, they get very uneasy when I tell        LL> them the state is murdering people in their name. Seems        LL> that most folks do not like to be called "killers" or        LL> "murderers" to their face.               Point?               LL> Klingons, as do Sicilians, have a saying - "Revenge is a        LL> dish best served cold." And that is exactly what those        LL> trials were after WWII, for both Europeans and Japanese.               There has to be a penalty, or there is no deterrant.               Oh, and that was Sicilian. Gene Roddenberry stole a lot.               LL> We wanted our revenge. And we got it.               And it was justified.                            BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Trust me, but look to thyself. -Irish proverb       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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