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   TIM RICHARDSON to BOB KLAHN   
   Democrat Fra.. Criminals   
   25 May 13 21:12:00   
   
   On 05-22-13, BOB KLAHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:   
      
   BK>...   
      
      
   TR> But more than that, she exposes the absolute lie   
   TR> perpetrated by those at the top, and not just in the IRS   
   TR> itself, but the two top people who, in front of cameras,   
   TR> act astounded...and un-knowing; Hussein Obama and Holder.   
      
      
   BK>Appeal to bigotry noted.   
      
      
   No "...bigotry..." involved. Your false accusation is no more true now than it   
   ever was. *Hussein* is his name. Refering to someone `by their name' is not   
   bigotry. Why would you think it wa.....oh! I see! Its his name....but its also   
   a typically *Muslim* or *Arabic* name.....and YOU don't like the *Muslim*,   
   *Arabic* aspect of your `boy' having attention drawn to it.   
      
      
   You know....I bet if I were a regular poster over in DEBATE you'd make a rule   
   that would make it forbidden to do that. Call attention to his (Hussein's)   
   Arabic\Muslim ethnicity, by calling him. or refering to him as `Hussein'.   
      
      
   Too bad we ain't over there.   
      
      
   BK>Why did you leave out the head of the IRS when the scandal   
   BK>happened, a Bush appointee?   
      
      
   And since you mention the IRS....here's something on that.   
      
      
   You know...the scandal goes a lot further back than peple realize. It would   
   seem it dates back to the first Hussein campaign in 2008! He tried to shut   
   down ALL opposition to his campaign. And once he became president it became an   
   ongoing thing, and its bound to come out eventually that Hussein was not only   
   in the know....he may have even had some involvement. By the way...whats-er-   
   face who pulled the ol' `take the fifth' trick the other day is in it deeper   
   than she'd like people to find out. She's also gonna be hauled back in front   
   of Issa's committee this coming week I hear.   
      
      
   But...give this a read...and think up some `spin' to excuse it all away. Oh   
   and...I'll hunt up Strassel's column and see if it fits here:   
      
      
   Strassel: IRS Scandal's Roots in Obama's 2008 Campaign; Attacked Clinton,   
   Edwards, Too   
      
      
   Breitbart.com   
      
      
      
   by Joel B. Pollak24 May 2013691post a comment   
      
      
   Kimberly Strassel has a must-read column at the Wall Street Journal today that   
   explains the context in which the IRS scandal emerged--not just during the   
   Obama administration's attempt to quash the Tea Party, but in Obama's efforts   
   to shut down all opposition, both Republican and Democratic, in the 2008   
   campaign.   
      
      
   Strassel notes that Bob Bauer, the Obama campaign (and later White House)   
   general counsel, wrote letters to the Department of Justice in August 2008   
   attacking a conservative 501(c)4 called the American Issues Project for   
   running an ad that highlighted Obama's connection to former Weather   
   Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Bauer did not stop there; he also contacted   
   the Federal Election Commission. That same month, a left-wing activist created   
   a 501(c)4 called Accountable America that was designed to intimidate GOP   
   donors.   
      
      
   Earlier that year, Strassel notes, during the Democratic Party primary, Bauer   
   had used the same tactics against a left-wing 501(c)4 that supported Hillary   
   Clinton, and another against one supporting John Edwards. As even Ben Smith,   
   then of Politico and a noted defender of the Obama campaign, noted:   
      
      
   It's worth noting that this isn't the first time Bauer has called for criminal   
   investigations and prosecutions into the donors to independent groups critical   
   of Obama, including one supporting John Edwards and another supporting Hillary   
   Rodham Clinton. His words did have the effect of scaring their donors and   
   consultants, but haven't yet appeared to result in any prosecution.   
      
      
   There are many other examples that one can add to Strassel's analysis. One   
   that I remember with particular bitterness is from September 2008, when the   
   Democratic National Committee and several Obama-aligned organizations   
   pressured the Jewish community to un-invite Sarah Palin from a rally against   
   Iran at the UN.   
      
      
   What happened was that a group of Jewish non-profit organizations had   
   organized the rally and invited both Gov. Palin and Sen. Hillary Clinton.   
   Clinton initially agreed to attend, but the Obama campaign was terrified at   
   the prospect of her sharing a stage with Palin and sending a signal that   
   Democrat women left frustrated by Clinton's loss might switch parties. So they   
   pressured Clinton to withdraw--and then pressured the Jewish groups to deny   
   Palin a platform, claiming that the rally was now "partisan." Jewish members   
   of the Democratic National Committee reportedly made threats to challenge the   
   groups' IRS non-profit status.   
      
      
   J Street, which had only recently started up as an organization devoted to   
   promoting criticism of Israel and Obama's Middle East policy, joined in the   
   pressure campaign, circulating a petition addressed to Jewish leader and rally   
   organizer Malcolm Hoenlein. When Palin was un-invited, J Street celebrated its   
   role in that deplorable display of thuggish intimidation of free speech and   
   assembly: "We Won!" it boasted. (So did Iran, that day.)   
      
      
   The Obama campaign's tactics weren't confined to non-profit groups. Indeed,   
   its present practice of trying to intimidate journalists emerged at the same   
   time.   
      
      
   In late August 2008, the Obama campaign organized an effort to shut down a   
   radio interview between Chicago journalist Milt Rosenberg and conservative   
   author Stanley Kurtz, who had just done the definitive research exposing the   
   ties between Ayers and Obama. (The campaign declined an invitation to appear   
   on the show itself.) The producer of the show later wrote: "It's interesting   
   to see what lengths the Obama campaign is willing to reach to stifle   
   dissenting voices."   
      
      
   Those of us who protested the Obama campaign's tactics at the time were   
   ignored, as were most who noted what the Obama administration later did to the   
   Tea Party and conservatives. Strassel adds that Bauer came back for the Obama   
   re-election campaign in 2012 and used the same tactics against Romney donors.   
      
      
   "None of this proves that Mr. Obama was involved in the IRS targeting of   
   conservative nonprofits," she writes. "But it does help explain how we got an   
   environment in which the IRS thought this was acceptable."   
      
      
   The important point is that the Obama administration's behavior in the   
   Benghazi scandal (intimidating whistleblowers), the IRS scandal (targeting   
   conservative nonprofits and donors), and the AP and Rosen scandals (hounding   
   individual journalists and news agencies) is a feature of Obama's character   
   and leadership, not a bug. He may know well enough to keep himself at arm's   
   length, to retain the façade of "plausible deniability." But the pattern of   
   behavior is becoming undeniable, as is Obama's ultimate responsibility.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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