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|    TIM RICHARDSON to BOB KLAHN    |
|    Democrat Fra.. Criminals    |
|    25 May 13 21:12:00    |
      On 05-22-13, BOB KLAHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:              BK>...                     TR> But more than that, she exposes the absolute lie       TR> perpetrated by those at the top, and not just in the IRS       TR> itself, but the two top people who, in front of cameras,       TR> act astounded...and un-knowing; Hussein Obama and Holder.                     BK>Appeal to bigotry noted.                     No "...bigotry..." involved. Your false accusation is no more true now than it       ever was. *Hussein* is his name. Refering to someone `by their name' is not       bigotry. Why would you think it wa.....oh! I see! Its his name....but its also       a typically *Muslim* or *Arabic* name.....and YOU don't like the *Muslim*,       *Arabic* aspect of your `boy' having attention drawn to it.                     You know....I bet if I were a regular poster over in DEBATE you'd make a rule       that would make it forbidden to do that. Call attention to his (Hussein's)       Arabic\Muslim ethnicity, by calling him. or refering to him as `Hussein'.                     Too bad we ain't over there.                     BK>Why did you leave out the head of the IRS when the scandal       BK>happened, a Bush appointee?                     And since you mention the IRS....here's something on that.                     You know...the scandal goes a lot further back than peple realize. It would       seem it dates back to the first Hussein campaign in 2008! He tried to shut       down ALL opposition to his campaign. And once he became president it became an       ongoing thing, and its bound to come out eventually that Hussein was not only       in the know....he may have even had some involvement. By the way...whats-er-       face who pulled the ol' `take the fifth' trick the other day is in it deeper       than she'd like people to find out. She's also gonna be hauled back in front       of Issa's committee this coming week I hear.                     But...give this a read...and think up some `spin' to excuse it all away. Oh       and...I'll hunt up Strassel's column and see if it fits here:                     Strassel: IRS Scandal's Roots in Obama's 2008 Campaign; Attacked Clinton,       Edwards, Too                     Breitbart.com                            by Joel B. Pollak24 May 2013691post a comment                     Kimberly Strassel has a must-read column at the Wall Street Journal today that       explains the context in which the IRS scandal emerged--not just during the       Obama administration's attempt to quash the Tea Party, but in Obama's efforts       to shut down all opposition, both Republican and Democratic, in the 2008       campaign.                     Strassel notes that Bob Bauer, the Obama campaign (and later White House)       general counsel, wrote letters to the Department of Justice in August 2008       attacking a conservative 501(c)4 called the American Issues Project for       running an ad that highlighted Obama's connection to former Weather       Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Bauer did not stop there; he also contacted       the Federal Election Commission. That same month, a left-wing activist created       a 501(c)4 called Accountable America that was designed to intimidate GOP       donors.                     Earlier that year, Strassel notes, during the Democratic Party primary, Bauer       had used the same tactics against a left-wing 501(c)4 that supported Hillary       Clinton, and another against one supporting John Edwards. As even Ben Smith,       then of Politico and a noted defender of the Obama campaign, noted:                     It's worth noting that this isn't the first time Bauer has called for criminal       investigations and prosecutions into the donors to independent groups critical       of Obama, including one supporting John Edwards and another supporting Hillary       Rodham Clinton. His words did have the effect of scaring their donors and       consultants, but haven't yet appeared to result in any prosecution.                     There are many other examples that one can add to Strassel's analysis. One       that I remember with particular bitterness is from September 2008, when the       Democratic National Committee and several Obama-aligned organizations       pressured the Jewish community to un-invite Sarah Palin from a rally against       Iran at the UN.                     What happened was that a group of Jewish non-profit organizations had       organized the rally and invited both Gov. Palin and Sen. Hillary Clinton.       Clinton initially agreed to attend, but the Obama campaign was terrified at       the prospect of her sharing a stage with Palin and sending a signal that       Democrat women left frustrated by Clinton's loss might switch parties. So they       pressured Clinton to withdraw--and then pressured the Jewish groups to deny       Palin a platform, claiming that the rally was now "partisan." Jewish members       of the Democratic National Committee reportedly made threats to challenge the       groups' IRS non-profit status.                     J Street, which had only recently started up as an organization devoted to       promoting criticism of Israel and Obama's Middle East policy, joined in the       pressure campaign, circulating a petition addressed to Jewish leader and rally       organizer Malcolm Hoenlein. When Palin was un-invited, J Street celebrated its       role in that deplorable display of thuggish intimidation of free speech and       assembly: "We Won!" it boasted. (So did Iran, that day.)                     The Obama campaign's tactics weren't confined to non-profit groups. Indeed,       its present practice of trying to intimidate journalists emerged at the same       time.                     In late August 2008, the Obama campaign organized an effort to shut down a       radio interview between Chicago journalist Milt Rosenberg and conservative       author Stanley Kurtz, who had just done the definitive research exposing the       ties between Ayers and Obama. (The campaign declined an invitation to appear       on the show itself.) The producer of the show later wrote: "It's interesting       to see what lengths the Obama campaign is willing to reach to stifle       dissenting voices."                     Those of us who protested the Obama campaign's tactics at the time were       ignored, as were most who noted what the Obama administration later did to the       Tea Party and conservatives. Strassel adds that Bauer came back for the Obama       re-election campaign in 2012 and used the same tactics against Romney donors.                     "None of this proves that Mr. Obama was involved in the IRS targeting of       conservative nonprofits," she writes. "But it does help explain how we got an       environment in which the IRS thought this was acceptable."                     The important point is that the Obama administration's behavior in the       Benghazi scandal (intimidating whistleblowers), the IRS scandal (targeting       conservative nonprofits and donors), and the AP and Rosen scandals (hounding       individual journalists and news agencies) is a feature of Obama's character       and leadership, not a bug. He may know well enough to keep himself at arm's       length, to retain the façade of "plausible deniability." But the pattern of       behavior is becoming undeniable, as is Obama's ultimate responsibility.                                                               ---       *Durango b301 #PE*         * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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