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|    TIM RICHARDSON to ALL    |
|    RE-Listing The Echo    |
|    19 Mar 13 13:55:00    |
      On 03-19-13, BOB KLAHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:                     TR> Earls echo was `slow', `not dead'. It was still listed. You       TR> tried to hijack it. You claimed you `revived' it! You don't       TR> like the same thing you dish out coming back at you, do you?                     BK>It was not Earl's echo when I revived it. It was unlisted for       BK>years.                     BK>So, you either don't know what you are talking about or are       BK>lying. Either way, that does not apply to this echo. You are       BK>banned.                     You are lying to cover up the fact that you posed as moderator in an echo that       belonged to someone else for almost a year. You got humiliated by being shown       to be a liar.                     BK>Leave the echo.                     Piss yer pants!                     Speaking of the New Black Panther Party swinging billy clubs and intimidating       voters at a polling place:                     Justice's Black Panther Lies | Judicial Watch                     Court Rules DOJ Politicized Black Panther Case, Awards JW Court Fees                     Judicial Watch has been confident for some time that the evidence shows that       political appointees at the Holder Justice Department were involved in the       decision to abandon the DOJ's own voter intimidation lawsuit against the New       Black Panther Party. And we've also been concerned that at least one high       ranking Justice Department official lied about it under oath.                     And in a major victory for Judicial Watch, a federal court seems to agree with       our analysis of this continuing scandal.                     The ruling came courtesy of Judge Reggie B. Walton of the U.S. District Court       for the District of Columbia in response to Judicial Watch's effort to obtain       attorney's fees from the Justice Department for stonewalling the release of       documents pertaining to the Black Panther scandal. Here's the key quote from       Judge Walton's ruling:                     The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring       about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the       days preceding the DOJ's dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear       to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez's testimony that political       leadership was not involved in that decision. Surely the public has an       interest in documents that cast doubt on the accuracy of government officials'       representations regarding the possible politicization of agency decision-       making.                     In sum, the Court concludes that three of the four fee entitlement factors       weigh in favor of awarding fees to Judicial Watch. Therefore, Judicial Watch       is both eligible and entitled to fees and costs, and the Court must now       consider the reasonableness of Judicial Watch's requested award.                     So, in short, this ruling is further confirmation that political appointees at       Justice did interfere in the Black Panther case. Assistant AG Perez's       testimony was false. And the American people have a right to documents related       to the scandal. That's pretty much a clear-cut victory.                     By way of review, this all started on Election Day 2008, when members of the       Black Panther Party stood guard at a polling station in Philadelphia, PA       brandishing weapons and threatening voters. A video of the incident was widely       distributed on the Internet. The Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit       against the Black Panthers, but ultimately overruled members of its own staff       and dismissed the majority of the charges.                     The Black Panther lawsuit dismissal led to accusations of racism at the       Justice Department from within its own ranks. Former Justice Department lawyer       J. Christian Adams, who called the actions by Black Panthers, "the simplest       and most obvious violation of federal law" he had ever seen during his career       at the DOJ, resigned from his position as a result of the case dismissal.                     Given the massive media attention earned by the Black Panther case dismissal,       people started questioning whether or not the decision was politically       motivated - including the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.                     The Commission, an independent, bipartisan unit of the federal government       charged with investigating and reporting on civil rights issues, initiated a       probe of the DOJ's decision to drop its lawsuit. During the hearing, Assistant       AG Perez was asked directly regarding the involvement of political leaders in       the decision to dismiss the Black Panther case.                     And here's what he said in his testimony:                     COMMISSIONER KIRSANOW: Was there any political leadership involved in the       decision not to pursue this particular case any further than it was?                     ASST. ATTY. GEN. PEREZ: No. The decisions were made by Loretta King in       consultation with Steve Rosenbaum, who is the Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney       General.                     Wrong answer.                     On September 20, JW released a draft Vaughn index prepared by the DOJ that       shows that top political appointees at the DOJ were involved in the decision       to dismiss the case. The index, which we acquired pursuant to a Freedom of       Information Act lawsuit, describes documents the government is withholding       from the public.                     Included in the index was a description of a series of emails between       Assistant Deputy Attorney General Steve Rosenbaum and Deputy Associate       Attorney General Sam Hirsch. The back-and-forth emails occurred on April 30,       2009, the day before the case was dropped. Hirsch has been described by Slate       magazine as a "DC election lawyer who represents a lot of Democrats" prior to       joining the Justice Department. Hirsch is also a former Obama donor.                     Also among the documents were internal DOJ emails regarding the Black Panther       case between former Deputy Attorney General David Ogden and the Associate       Attorney General Thomas Perrelli, the second and third ranking officials at       the DOJ.                     Here's one example: A May 10, 2009, email from Associate Attorney General       Perrelli to Deputy Associate Attorney General and former Democratic election       lawyer Sam Hirsch. "Where are we on the Black Panther case?" Perrelli asks in       the subject header. The email also includes Deputy Attorney General Ogden's       "current thoughts on the case."                     So what about the top ranking official at DOJ, Attorney General Eric Holder?                     An email from former Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King, dated May       12, 2009, was distributed directly to Attorney General Eric Holder through       Odgen and Perrelli. Entitled, "Weekly Report for the Week Ending May 8, 2009,"       the email "Identifies matters deemed significant and highlights issues for the       senior offices, including an update on a planned course of action in the NBPP       (New Black Panther Party) litigation."                     Evidently Holder was in the loop as well. Okay, next question: What about the       Obama White House?                     Press reports reported at least nine meetings between Perrelli and White House       officials between March 25 and May 27, 2009, regarding the Black Panther case.       (JW filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit to get to the truth in       the matter but were unable to find evidence of a direct White House link (not       that Messrs Perrelli and Hirsch needed to be told what to do).)                     So the Black Panther scandal which, we were told, was managed by low level       Justice officials might just go all the way to the very top.                     As I say, JW's discoveries in this case have earned a massive amount of press       coverage. Here's a link to an appearance I made on the Fox News Channel's       "O'Reilly Factor" with Bill O'Reilly on Tuesday night. Expect the news       regarding this case to continue to reverberate. The Court's decision is       another piece of evidence showing the Obama Justice Department is run by       individuals who have a problem telling the truth. And it shows that we can't       trust the Obama Justice Department to fairly administer our nation's voting       and election laws.                     We intend to continue to push for accountability. Perez, who gave the false       testimony, is a leading leftist at Justice who has taken the lead in the       attacks on Arizona's immigration enforcement measures, attacks on election       integrity measures such as voter ID, and the shakedown of financial       institutions over dubious discriminatory lending allegations. (You can go to       agency's Internet site to get the full breadth of Perez's hard Left agenda.)                     Hans Von Spakovsky, a former DOJ official now with the Heritage Foundation,       has been following this issue closely and writes:                     Where is the investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Professional       Responsibility (OPR) of whether Perez violated his ethical and professional       obligations as a DOJ attorney? Will the DOJ inspector general open an       investigation of the possible violation by Perez of 18 U.S.C. ยง1621, which       outlaws presenting false statements under oath in official federal       proceedings?                     Or will they all respectively yawn and ignore this?                     Imagine if a conservative political appointee at DOJ had just been cited in a       federal court decision as having apparently testified falsely under oath. Not       only would it be a top headline at The New York Times and The Washington Post,       but the IG and OPR would be rushing to investigate. All of which is a sad       commentary on the liberal bias not just of the media, but of too many of the       offices and officials within the Justice Department who are supposed to       administer justice in an objective, non-political, and impartial manner.                     We will follow up, of course. You should, too. Contact the Justice       Department, call talk radio, write letters to the editor of your local       newspaper, call or visit your congressman (they're all back "home" now for a       few weeks). And, of course, keep up your support of Judicial Watch, so we       can achieve more victories and accountability for the rule of law in corrupt       DC.                                   ---       *Durango b301 #PE*         * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)    |
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