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   TIM RICHARDSON to BILL MCGARRITY   
   RE-Listing The Echo   
   14 Mar 13 10:27:00   
   
   On 03-13-13, BILL MCGARRITY said to TIM RICHARDSON:   
      
   BM>Re: RE-Listing The Echo   
   BM>By: TIM RICHARDSON to DAMON A. GETSMAN on Wed Mar 13 2013 10:16:00   
      
      
   TR> 4. Believe in the Cosntitution in its original intent, and not all this   
   TR> gerrymandering of its meanings the liberal democrats and their cadre on   
   TR> our federal and state courts have twisted it into over the years in which   
   TR> they held power.   
      
      
      
   BM>Curious as to why you singled out "liberal democrats" in your statement?   
      
      
   It was a `liberal' court that *found* abortion in the Constitution. It ain't   
   there (yes...I said *ain't*), never was, and only that liberal court (and   
   modern-day liberal democrats) saw it in there.   
      
      
   The Second Amendment to the Constitution says: *The Right of The People to   
   Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed*.   
      
      
   What part of *.....Shall Not Be Infringed* is confusing to all these liberal   
   democrats who're trying to outlaw firearms in the hands of *The People*?   
      
      
   What part of the Constitution allows them the right to restrict, and   
   ultimately confiscate firearms from private hands?   
      
      
   Pretty much every firearms law since 1968 is unConstitutional.   
      
      
   BM>Does not the lastest form of "gerrymandering" find it's home in the GOP   
   BM>camp?   
      
      
   Nobody said both parties don't do the `gerrymandering'. But thats not the   
   `context' in which I used the word.   
      
      
   Look right up there where it says (and I'm quoting):   
      
      
   "Believe in the Constitution in its original intent, and not all this   
   gerrymandering of its meanings...."   
      
      
   Obamacare is a complete violation of the Constitution. Does it not cause you   
   any discomfort that (by their own words) the majority of congress passed it   
   and this idiot in the White House signed it into law, and most (if not all)   
   didn't even read what they were passing?   
      
      
   Doesn't it bother you when a national law maker claims the authority for the   
   Obamacare health bill is *in the Constitution*....and when asked pointedly by   
   someone, on camera...*where is it in the Constitution*....she gets a confused,   
   thousand-yard stare in her eyes and says "....are you serious?....are you   
   `serious'?"....but doesn't actually answer the question, and nobody called her   
   on it? Pinned her to answer? That doesn't bother you?   
      
      
   BM>Did they not also try and ban voting by both limiting the timeframe   
   BM>and also requireing certain credentials allowing them the opportunity?   
      
      
   They tried to bring a simple sense of sanity to the election process by   
   requiring photo ID for voters to cast a legal vote. Whats wrong with that?   
      
      
   You cannot cash a check without photo ID. If you think you can....the next   
   time you cash your paycheck, try going into a bank you've never been in before   
   and where nobody knows you and cash it.   
      
      
   Using a credit card in most places requires photo ID.   
      
      
   There are so many things in our society today that calls for you to have photo   
   ID, why not voting?   
      
      
   When a person first registers to vote they should be required to do so *IN*   
   the Registrar of Voters' office. And they should have an ID with their photo   
   on it AND their birth certificate to PROVE who they are. Whats wrong with   
   that?   
      
      
   By the way...before you come off with some `story' about `republicans   
   disenfranchising voters'.....in the national news in the very recent news   
   cycles...there was a democrat POLL WATCHER! who admitted voting SIX FRIGGIN   
   TIMES for Hussein! In Hamilton County, Ohio! Two times she used her real name,   
   and the other four times she used the names of relatives!   
      
      
   You gotta ask yourself....how are our presidents getting elected? Just how   
   honest are our presidential elections?   
      
      
   BM>Is it now the latest rage of the GOP to destroy certain communities filled   
   BM>with those who's views do not match their own?   
      
      
   .....what??.....   
      
      
   BM>Granted, this has been   
   BM>going on and probably will go on long after we're 6 feet under but let's   
   BM>be realistic.   
      
      
   You lost me there somewhere.   
      
      
   BM>May I also ask why you do not believe the Constitution is   
   BM>not a living, expandable document meant to mirror the intents of society   
   BM>at any specific time? There are significantly more Ammendments attached   
   BM>that clarifies the need for it to grow, and in the case of the XVIII,   
   BM>repealed.   
      
      
   No....it is NOT a *living, expandable document*. It is what it is. There's   
   nothing about `abortion'....`health care'....`free-furnished `birth   
   control'....or a lot of other stuff that have been `umbra'd' and `pee-   
   numbra'd' out of it over the years.   
      
      
   BM>No one can predict the future and that was the genius embedded   
   BM>within the document.   
      
      
   The *genius* embedded within the document is that it means the same thing   
   today as it did when it was written. The `growing'...`expanding' ...`living'   
   in it is to in the end cause it to be meaningless. The president we have today   
   ignores it whenever he feels like it. He's even been told by a federal judge   
   that some things he's done are un-Constitutional and therefore void! Yet he   
   goes along with what he did to violate the Constitution as though that federal   
   judge never made a ruling.   
      
      
   That sort of thing doesn't bother you? It should.   
      
      
   BM>The writers were men, not gods and they knew this.   
      
      
   So to are the men and women who sit in seats of power today.   
      
      
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