Hi Bob,   
      
   On Sun 2013-Jan-06 09:07, BOB BREED (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:   
      
    BB> Same with our nutcakes that do this.  OK, maybe they're nuts, but so   
    BB> what?  Acts like shooting up a school should be a defacto death   
    BB> sentence.   
      
      
    RW> I happen to agree with you.  AS I've said before in this   
    RW> echo, I worked for a mission for the homeless which was a   
    RW> dumping ground for the state mental hospital when they had   
    RW> patients "ready" for outpatient, but nobody to really   
    RW> monitor them or places where they were somewhat supervised.   
      
    RW> I understand that these folks have a right to live in   
    RW> the least restrictive environment possible, but   
    RW> public safety should be a prime consideration when   
    RW> determining this.   
      
      
   BB> Yes, it is a sad situation, but I still believe that once these   
   BB> types cross the line, it's best just to remove them.   Even the   
   BB> Doc's admit that some of these real whackos will never be better and   
   BB> are just ticking time bombs.    
      
   BB> Kinda like drunk drivers.  It's pretty common to hear about one   
   BB> killing someone while driving drunk, then they go on to state this   
   BB> is his 3rd time arrested while driving drunk, his license has been   
   BB> suspended - yet now he has a death on his hands.  NOW they'll do   
   BB> something about him, but man what a price someone paid to get to   
   BB> that point.   
      
   Agreed.  The trouble with some of these folks is they really aren't all   
   together together, unlike the drunk driver who   
   just can't seem to gather the cojones to be responsible.   
   Not just is the current mental health system harmful to   
   otherwise law abiding average folks, but others who need   
   supervision and ongoing treatment are not equipped to look   
   out for themselves, and they become victims too.   
      
   I remember watching a guy trade a perfectly good running   
   automobile for a sweatshirt and a dollar bill at this same   
   mission.  i would say that more of the people the   
   institutions   
   dumped on us were victims than victimizers.  Usually the   
   powers that be at those institutions didn't send the violent ones back to us,   
   but the others they did send to us were not equipped to look out for   
   themselves.  The drunks and   
   druggies preyed on them, as well as the others from the   
   mental institutions who were considered ready to resume life outside.   
      
      
   But, this creature who shot up a school, we'd be better off   
   setting him up an appointment with old sparky or something.   
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
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