Hello Bob,   
      
    BB>> At any rate this type of guy should be done away with.  AFAIC he's   
    BB>> lost his right to exist.   
      
    BB>> Same with our nutcakes that do this.  OK, maybe they're nuts, but so   
    BB>> what?  Acts like shooting up a school should be a defacto death   
    BB>> sentence.   
      
    RW>> I happen to agree with you.  AS I've said before in this   
    RW>> echo, I worked for a mission for the homeless which was a   
    RW>> dumping ground for the state mental hospital when they had   
    RW>> patients "ready" for outpatient, but nobody to really   
    RW>> monitor them or places where they were somewhat supervised.   
    RW>> YOu wouldn't believe some of the stuff I saw those people   
    RW>> do.   
      
    RW>> I'm not a bigot, and I do believe that people should be   
    RW>> treated fairly and humanely, but there are some folks who   
    RW>> shouldn't be walkiong around without a keeper.  Some of them are way   
    RW>> too dangerous to be turned loose in public, and if   
    RW>> we can't have them well supervised, the best thing to do is   
    RW>> fix 'em up a hot shot and push teh damned needle in.   
      
    RW>> There was one I had to deal with who was violent, I had to   
    RW>> replace the white cane i use to move about three times in   
    RW>> the same period of months, and i finally told the boss   
    RW>> preacher there that if the state mental health folks dumped   
    RW>> him on us again i"d probably slit his throat while he slept, and   
    RW>> consider it taking out the garbage.   
      
    RW>> Removing him from the living would take care of the issue   
    RW>> where he's concerned, but there are thousands of others, and our   
    RW>> so-called mental health infrastructure doesn't do its   
    RW>> job properly.  I understand that these folks have a right to live in   
    RW>> the least restrictive environment possible, but   
    RW>> public safety should be a prime consideration when   
    RW>> determining this.   
      
   BB>Yes, it is a sad situation, but I still believe that once these   
   BB>types cross the line, it's best just to remove them.   Even the   
   BB>Doc's admit that some of these real whackos will never be better   
   BB>and are just ticking time bombs.   
      
   Locking them up for the rest of their natural life may be a necessary   
   step for some folks.  Either in prisons (where rapists and murders are   
   kept), or (if they are nuts) in mental institutions for the criminally   
   insane.  As such, there is no real need for the death penalty, as their   
   only way out has already been determined.  Their only way out is in a   
   pine box.   
      
   BB>Kinda like drunk drivers.   
      
   Nah.  With drunk drivers we can run them over.  That will save us   
   the time and money of putting them in prison (or nuthouses).  Oh how   
   I wish we could all be Mad Max.  At least for a day.   
      
   BB>It's pretty common to hear about one killing someone while driving   
   BB>drunk, then they go on to state this is his 3rd time arrested   
   BB>while driving drunk, his license has been suspended - yet now he has   
   BB>a death on his hands.  NOW they'll do something about him, but man   
   BB>what a price someone paid to get to that point.   
      
   A few years ago there were six college graduate students walking   
   home late at night after having shared a few drinks at a local bar.   
   It was only about a half mile walk, no big deal, the bar being a   
   college hangout, the apartments rented mainly by college students.   
   As they were walking home, a man in his late 20's/early 30's plowed   
   into them, killing three of them instantly, maining and permanently   
   disabling a fourth, injuring a fifth, and just barely missing the   
   sixth.  After running the college kids over with his car, he went   
   to his apartment and fell asleep.  The cops arrived at the scene,   
   and had no problem finding the guy who hit the kids, as there were   
   lots of witnesses, including the drunk's roommate.  The fellow was   
   sound asleep when the cops found him, and was so drunk he had   
   absolutely no idea that he had hit anybody.  This was the third or   
   fourth time he had gotten in trouble because of his drinking habit.   
   And at least the second time he had gotten into an accident while   
   drunk.  Anyway, the cops arrested him, and after spending about   
   a year in jail, he plea bargained for a deal that sent him to   
   prison for twenty years.  But I expect he'll be out in less than   
   five, or ten at the most.   
      
   The day after those three college kids were killed, people placed   
   flowers on the spot they died.  And then somebody placed three wooden   
   crosses into the ground on the side of the road at that spot.  Those   
   three wooden crosses are still there today.   
      
   --Lee   
      
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