MM> I applaud people investing their money and making products   
    MM> and services people want to patronize. Unfortunately there   
    MM> have been recent crises in the news about the religious   
    MM> beliefs of the owners of companies and government. Recent   
    MM> news have brought forth the refusal of Oklahoma based craft   
    MM> store Hobby Lobby to fund the morning after pill because it   
    MM> leads to termination of pregnancy and various business   
      
    The Afordable Health Care act applies the previous law banning   
    the govt paying for abortions except under limited   
    circumstances. The morning after pill is an abortificant.   
    Therefore it should not be considered under contraception.   
    Bringing it in distorts the debate.   
      
    MM> owners in states that opened up marriage to same sex   
    MM> couples not wanting to do business with them.   
      
    Not covered by Obamacare. Though I get your meaning.   
      
    MM> Unfortunately we are entering the uncomfortable topic of   
    MM> should we allow private business owners to object to laws   
    MM> on moral grounds.   
      
    Depends on the laws. Navaho get their sacred mushrooms.   
      
    MM> It is a very dangerous precedent if   
    MM> allowed by our courts. I certainly would not want a   
    MM> Jehovahs Witness employer to refuse to cover my blood   
    MM> transfusion if I got in a major medical incident. I would   
    MM> not want a cost cutting employer to deny medicines for   
    MM> Diabetes if I should need them to function properly.   
      
    And that is the real focus of the debate.   
      
    MM> The irony is craft and hobby stores have a dominant female   
    MM> clientele and they are going to be hurting their female   
    MM> employees big time by their decision. I remember during the   
    MM> Sandra Fluke incident earlier in 2012, she was asking for   
    MM> her schools health plan to cover contraceptives and she got   
    MM> major flak from Rush Limbaugh. Economically speaking,   
      
    Limbaugh is an idiot.   
      
    MM> health care costs are higher when more items are subsidized   
    MM> and in some cases you can get cheaper prices by paying in   
      
    Long term covering contraceptives can be cheaper than not paying   
    for contraceptives.   
      
    ...   
      
    MM> If we want to prevent conservative business owners from   
    MM> going Galt as in the case in Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged where   
    MM> the productive people of society ran away from an   
    MM> oppressive government, we need to adapt single payer.   
      
    Let them go Galt. We will hardly notice. Business owners on a   
    large scale have little to do with actually running businesses,   
    and small business would be beneath the notice of the Galts.   
      
    The business owners may run away, but the productive people   
    won't.   
      
    MM> Single payer would give all of us universal health care   
    MM> that would be free from the dictates of the employer. This   
      
    That is the big advantage.   
      
    MM> would lead to healthier workers and increased productivity.   
      
    But no more than a Swiss or Japanese or French style national   
    health care system.   
      
    ...   
      
    MM> For Hobby Lobby they should understand that they are   
    MM> operating a business that serves the public, it is not   
    MM> selective like a church where they can boot people for not   
    MM> believing their principles of faith or boot people because   
    MM> they may be queer.   
      
    The other big point in the discussion.   
      
   ...   
      
    MM> Religious nullification of laws would be very   
    MM> dangerous and outright stupid. If someone is a Muslim and   
    MM> wants to be a supermarket checkout clerk at Albertsons,   
    MM> they should realize that they will have to handle ham once   
    MM> in a while and there would be no excuses or a designated   
    MM> ham holder to step in when the time arises.   
      
    True... however, is handling a ham actually forbidden to   
    Muslims? After all, if a wild boar were found dead on property   
    owned by a Muslim or Jew, he would have to clean it up.   
      
    MM> For the photographer, innkeeper and the trolley owner who   
    MM> refuses to do business because there are same sex couples   
    MM> in our society. Who in their right mind wants to turn down   
    MM> customers in todays economy?   
      
    And that is the lead question.   
      
    ...   
      
    MM> ... An armed populace is the greatest insurance against   
    MM> tyranny. --- FMail/Win32 1.64.GPL-Beta   
      
    Prosperity is the best insurance against an armed populace.   
      
      
      
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