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   BOB KLAHN to RICHARD WEBB   
   Nationalized Elections   
   29 Nov 12 13:34:42   
   
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   BK>>  Which is one point Libertarians and all dedicated third partiers   
   BK>> forget. They can be ignored if they don't get involved with the  big   
   BK>> parties. Then can have a significant effect from within the  big   
   BK>> parties. Over time they do affect policy. That's been shown  again   
   BK>> and again.   
      
    RW> True, but these are often the most difficult to motivate to   
    RW> get involved in the major parties because too much of the   
    RW> party's main thrust is diametrically opposed to the   
    RW> individual's point of view.   
      
    All too often they mistake rhetoric for real intention.   
      
    RW> i registered Democrat back in Iowa, mainly due to the   
    RW> caucus system and my activism with the organized blind   
    RW> movement. IN '88 I got heavily involved in the process   
    ...   
    RW> specifhying that state government leave the rehab agencies   
    RW> alone in their great reorganization push.  But, had it not   
    RW> been for that issue at that time i probably would have   
    RW> never run for that platform committee seat at the state   
    RW> level.   
      
    Needed a push to get into it.   
      
    RW>> MEanwhile, Falwell Robertson and their ilk must be   
    RW>> placated, they're loud and they've got money from the   
    RW>> gullible er faithful to burn.  got to do something other   
    RW>> than build air conditioned doghouses ya know.   
      
   BK>>  Yeah, esp since Citizens United. And they make good front groups   
   BK>> for big money people.   
      
    RW> That they do too.  pLenty of ways to hide who's really   
    RW> behind something.   
      
    And plenty of reason. So many things get passed that wouldn't if   
    people really knew what was behind them.   
      
    RW>    
   BK>>  Never underestimate the ability of politicians to evade truth.   
      
    RW> Believe me, I don't!   
      
    Hmmm... how can I believe you, you admitted above having run for   
    a platform committee seat. Have you repented your politician   
    period?   
      
    RW>> The electoral college was effective, back before the   
    RW>> telegraph, the telephone and other electronic   
    RW>> communications capabilities, but it's been obsolete for   
    RW>> over a century now. it's time to bury it!   
      
   BK>>  Exactly the point.   
      
    RW> And we know it'll never happen.  IT gives the two major   
    RW> parties a lock on power.   
      
    Mostly it gives the lesser party at the time more of a chance to   
    take power. The party of the people want's the popular vote to   
    rule, the party of the party want's the electoral college.   
      
      
      
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