Hello Bob,   
      
   On Thu 2011-Jul-07 23:51, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:   
      
      
    RW> I'm not sure about Iran, their theocracy is having enough   
    RW> difficulty holding it together from waht I read some   
    RW> places. AS for Pakistan, they may not be financing, but   
    RW> they're sure giving the terrorists aid and comfort.   
    RW> Equates to the same thing in my book.   
      
   BK>  I am convinced Pakistan is so divided they are going both ways  at   
   BK> once. They talk in public against our drones, then ask for  intel   
   BK> gained by the drones. More and more I am convinced the  ISI,   
   BK> Pakistani intel, is more guilty of the aid to the Taliban.    
      
   Right, but they are essentially the government, as your   
   retired surgeon's article in the Blade points out.   
      
   BK>  I have a column from our local Pakistani immigrant columnist  I'll   
   BK> post parts of.   
      
   I found that interesting, but you'll note he acknowledges   
   that the Pakistani military is in contro, hence ISI has the   
   control.  EIther way it makes no difference.  We've helped   
   create this monster, and we need to cut off all aid for   
   anything except education, and if that still doesn't get it, cut that off, and    
   send the bombers and missiles.  But first   
   you gotta cut off the head, and that's Saudi.  Remove the   
   head, the body dies.   
      
    RW> Re:  Religion and government:   
   BK>>  Yep. Exactly. Their place is partly to counterbalance each   
   BK>>  other.   
      
    RW> INdeed, the various religions as practiced by the people   
    RW> governed should act as the conscience of the society.   
    RW> Religion should imho cherish that outsider role, as they're   
    RW> better able to watchdog the system.   
      
   OUr religions have lost sight of that, as they want to   
   control instead of be the watchdogs that can speak out   
   against injustice.   
      
    RW>> OF course they do, poor folks can't do anything about the   
    RW>> corruption if there are no mechanisms in place to help them   
    RW>> fight it, all they can do is feed it themselves, instead of   
    RW>> feed themselves.   
      
   BK>>  And pushing the Saudis to start financing peace instead of   
   BK>>  terror, by frightening them enough, would be a good start.   
      
      
    RW> I'd like to frighten them, in fact I'd like to frighten   
    RW> them a whole bunch.   
      
   YEs I would, and if "Frightening" them doesn't do it,   
   utterly destroy them.   
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
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