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   BK>> small. Every industrialized country in the world has a national   
   BK>> health care system that covers everyone in the country, and  costs   
   BK>> much less than the US system for care that is just as  good.   
   BK>> However, only two of those countries have single payer  systems. All   
   BK>> the others have systems based on private sector  insurance, with   
   BK>> public coverage for those who cannot afford the  private systems.   
      
    RW> True, this fosters competition, and still gets those who   
    RW> would be left out when the private insurance systems cherry   
    RW> pick.  Single payer is just too unwieldy.   
      
    Esp since insurance in those countries is done by non-profits.   
    The managers are paid on number of people insured, not profits.   
      
    RW> As you catch up on mail bundles you'll have read my   
    RW> comments re a guy who used to do some bench tech work for   
    RW> me part time   
    RW> that had to quti working for me, and somebody else as well   
    RW> so as to retain access to the medications and treatments he   
    RW> needs to stay alive.  Under both single payer and a   
      
    I believe you mentioned him some time before.   
      
    RW> combined system he'd be covered, but under a system which   
    RW> is a mix of public and private he might still find it   
    RW> advantageous to work full time, with the government option   
    RW> kicking in to defray costs that any employment related plan   
    RW> wouldn't cover.   
      
    That is a major advantage. The claim that 800,000 jobs would be   
    lost that the right wing pushed so much was really 800,000   
    people would leave the workforce because they are working   
    because they need the insurance, otherwise they would retire or   
    leave to start their own business or just raise children.   
    Obamacare would make that affordable.   
      
   BK>>  The quality is just as high, and the cost is 2/3rds to 1/2 what  we   
   BK>> pay.   
      
    RW> I"ve never really crunched the numbers or really researched   
    RW> it, more important things to me, but that seems right on an   
    RW> intuitive level.   
      
    The low end policies are 8% of GDP, the high end is 12%. Ours is   
    heading for 20%.   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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