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|    John Massey to Matt Munson    |
|    The real story about Hostess    |
|    17 Nov 12 19:18:17    |
      On 11/17/2012 14:29, Matt Munson -> All wrote:               MM> Hello everybody!               MM> From the WSJ comments section - long, but worth the read:               MM> 12:10 am November 13, 2012        MM> St Louis wrote :               MM> Unions are not what is wrong with Hostess. Management is what is wrong.        MM> My husband has worked for WonderBread for 13 years. Explain to me how 4        MM> mgrs for 5 employees makes sense? Tell me how the company goes into        MM> bankruptcy but can pay someone $1 million to "fix" the company. Those        MM> that are not involved with the company can say anything. Its always the        MM> Unions fault. If you only knew what was really going on within that        MM> company.This statement is exactly what has happened. St Louis has been        MM> rumored to close for at least 3 yrs now. I would like to see you go to        MM> work tomorrow and say OK to any paycut. At some point you have to stick        MM> up for yourself.               MM> I am a Hostess employee. Hostess stopped our pension contributions a yr        MM> & a half ago. Then they gave the top execs pay raises of 30-80%. They        MM> offered new contracts: no pension payments (no retirement plan at all        MM> for union employees, but company management still gets contributions to        MM> their retirement plans) for another 2 & 1/2 yrs, and then a 75%        MM> reduction in pension when they do start paying into it again; we have to        MM> pay an ADDITIONAL $200/ mo for health insurance; They took away our last        MM> cost of living raise; they gave us an 8% wage cut on top of that; they        MM> are outsourcing all of the office work to Manilla; they are closing 12        MM> plants. THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT WENT INTO EFFECT LAST        MM> MONTH!!               MM> The 3 bakery closures were not due to the labor strike, they were        MM> locations on the closure list. Hostess used the opportunity provided by        MM> the strike to close them w/o having to pay severance or give notice.        MM> Hostess will be closing more plants whether the strike is resolved or        MM> not. We were told that if both major unions did not accept the new        MM> contracts, Hostess would IMMEDIATELY liquidate and we would all lose our        MM> jobs. Teamsters accepted (barely), Bakers did not. Hostess didnt        MM> liquidate. We were told that if there was any kind of a strike, Hostess        MM> would IMMEDIATELY liquidate & we would lose our jobs. Bakers went on        MM> strike, Hostess didnt liquidate. The Seattle bakery was literally 100        MM> years old. They have been talking about closing it for years. Of the 3        MM> plants closed- the only one on official strike was Seattle. St. Louis &        MM> Cincinnati were not on strike.               MM> Its frustrating for Hostess employees working their butts off and taking        MM> all these cuts, to still see Management driving luxury rental cars,        MM> flying all over the county at $1,000/ ticket, having meetings in Vegas,        MM> spending $200/ night on hotels, $75 on ONE meal for ONE person, golf        MM> tournaments at $1,000/ea, throwing away MASSIVE amounts of product        MM> because they dont do their jobs right, the list goes on.               MM> We keep taking cuts and they keep wasting money. We took cuts a few yrs        MM> ago (during the LAST bankruptcy) and the money was supposed to be used        MM> to update equipment, facilities, 50 yr old route trucks; new product        MM> development, etc. None of that ever happened. They wasted the money and        MM> then came back to us for more. Where are their cuts and sacrifices? I        MM> wish people out there would realize whats going on. 6 CEOs in the past        MM> few yrs?? Doesnt anyone see whats wrong w/ this picture? Theres no one        MM> there anymore who truly cares about this company. Its nobodys baby.        MM> Nobody w/ the power to make decisions loves it. They just care about the        MM> money. Its heartbreaking. I dont blame any of the employees for finally        MM> saying theyve had enough.        MM> [blogs.wsj.com]                            It must really piss you off that you are not smart enough be management.       You must think it's better to loose all the workers jobs just to prove a point.              Maybe Obama will help you find a job. Call him.              --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.        * Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0)    |
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