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   Message 2,347 of 4,105   
   Lee Lofaso to Matt Munson   
   Republican Math   
   11 Nov 12 20:02:34   
   
   Hello Matt,   
      
    LL>> Republican Math -   
      
    LL>> Rich People + More Money = Jobs   
      
    LL>> According to perennial loser Mitt Romney, what this country needs are   
    LL>> more Job Creators.  Jobs Creators such as himself.  Unfortunately,   
    LL>> American voters are not very good at math, preferring to listen to a   
    LL>> motivational speaker rather than doing their homework...   
      
   MM>I can agree with you entirely even if Romney was president   
   MM>jobs WOULD NOT be created.   
      
   Oh, he would have created jobs.  A war in Syria would have done   
   that.  A war in Iran would also have done that.  Wars in both   
   Syria and in Iran, as well as staying in Afghanistan, would have   
   provided lots of jobs.  Of course, it would also have created   
   lots of dead American soldiers.  Not to mention dead Syrians,   
   dead Iranians, and dead Afghans.  But that's beside the point.   
      
   Oh.  You mean civilian jobs.  Now I understand.   
      
   Buglers will be in great demand.   
      
   MM>I think i would like to see a capital gains tax cut if you keep   
   MM>someone at 250% above the poverty level employed for over a year.   
      
   Isn't the United States already a low-tax country?  Yes it is.   
   For both individuals and for corporations.  It's true no matter   
   how you look at it, or how you comapare the US to other countries   
   or with the US of the past.   
      
   As individuals, we pay much less than we once did.   
   Corporations pay much less than they once did.   
   We (individuals and corporations) also pay much   
   less than in most other countries.   
      
   We need lower taxes like we need a hole in the head.   
   Especially corporations.   
      
   Conservatives lie through their teeth in an effort to make Americans   
   believe a falsehood, saying or suggesting that our budget deficits are   
   nothing more than a mere "spending problem" -   
      
   "We don't have this problem because we tax too little.  We have   
   it because we spent too much."   
   - Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)   
      
   Oh, my.  The lies they do tell.  It may be a popular talking point,   
   but the plain truth of the matter is that it simply is not true.   
   Deficits do not spring from spending levels alone, but rather are   
   the result of a mismatch between spending and revenue.  That is   
   what those conservatives do not want to tell you, or for you to   
   find out about.   
      
   When revenue is as low as it is today, guess what happens?   
   WE END UP WITH BIG DEFICITS.   
      
   Look at the election results.  Look at how many folks bought Mitt   
   Romney's snake oil.  His sales pitch was that he was going to give   
   everybody a $5 trillion tax cut, and also increase military spending   
   by $2 trillion.  All without raising taxes.   
      
   Cutting taxes does not raise revenue.  Increased spending on   
   the military does not raise revenue.  And there are not enough   
   loopholes that can be eliminated in order to even make up the   
   difference that Mitt Romney cited ($7 trillion).   
      
   And you want to bring down the deficit by lowering or eliminating   
   the capital gains tax???   
      
   The clear truth is that federal taxes in the USA are very low.   
   So low, in fact, that taxes today are even lower than they were   
   under President Ronald Reagan.   
      
   So, if you are a conservative, and you liked President Ronald   
   Reagan, you must truly *love* President Barack Obama.   
      
   --Lee   
      
   --- MesNews/1.06.00.00-gb   
    * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2)   

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