HI bob,
On Thu 2012-Oct-18 18:42, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:
BK>> Esp since the great majority of that debt was accumulated under
BK>> three republican anti-tax presidents. Even what has accumulated
BK>> under Obama is a small portion by comparison.
RW> Right, and when you consider that a portion of that debt is
RW> incurred because our tax structure was revamped to enable
RW> the rich to pay less. I hear all this whining about the
RW> so-called inheritance tax by folks that aren't going to
RW> have to pay it. Unless a couple passes along $3 million or
RW> more to their kids they're not impacted. HEre's all these
BK> You suffer from a case of paying attention. Gotta go watch more
BK> TV.
The trouble is, if left to its own devices
that inheritance tax would have kicked in for a couple who
passes along $7 million to the kiddies. I don't think I
know anybody who would come anywhere close to that!
RW> average folks been duped into believing this is going to
RW> hurt them. they need to engage a few brain cells adn
RW> actually bother to read instead of listen to the talking
RW> heads on the political ads.
BK> Read? Think?
It's essential.
BK> Oh, I want to do away with almost all welfare. Simple to do, just
BK> make sure there are enough jobs to go around.
A nice thought, see below.
RW> Right, but the part the liberals and the conservatives miss
RW> is this. Back in the post ww ii period when all the
RW> employers offered great health insurance benefits, etc. for
RW> employees there was less competition internationally. The
RW> tv you bought was made in the U.s> The kitchen appliances
RW> you bought were made in America. If we can't get the good
RW> factory jobs it's even more important to invest in such
RW> areas as research, etc. Even Republicans such as former
RW> Senator PEte DOmenici of NEw mExico were saying this a
RW> decade ago.
BK> Research will not accomplish much if we don't put it to use here.
BK> Bring back the factories. Put tarrifs on imports from cheap labor
BK> countries.
Good luck with that! The trade advocates will never go for
it, and to compete with those folks we have to toss
workplace safety under the bus as well. We get a good start anyway by not
making employers responsible for health care
coverage, but providing it some kidn of way so as to keep a
healthy productive populace.
RW> The employers can no longer afford to provide their
RW> employees those decent health insurance packages.
RW> Competition won't allow it. That means that if we want a
RW> healthy populace to be able to be productive something has
RW> to step into the gap. There's only one entity that can be
RW> reasonably expected to step into that gap, and that's the
RW> Federal government.
BK> Oh no... you said a dirty word.
I'm not saying I like that option, but, it's the better bad
choice. The only other choice is none for anybody who can't afford to pay for
it. A healthy educated populace is
productive, and a benefit to itself. An unhealthy poorly
educated populace is dangerous!
RW> You have to adapt to conditions as you find them. In many
RW> facets of our society we've failed to adapt. ORganisms
RW> that don't adapt to prevailing conditions die off and become
RW> extinct, it's a fact of life. this is true for societies
RW> as well as plants and animals.
BK> Uh... yeah... that should be obvious... or do creationists
BK> really believe God made us so much better than everyone else that
BK> we don't have to make any effort?
YEs they do. 'consider the lillies of the field, they toil
not ... "
I may have paraphrased that wrong, sorry 'bout that. Been
awhile since I saw that passage.
Regards,
Richard
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