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|    BOB KLAHN to RICHARD WEBB    |
|    the debt smokescreen    |
|    18 Oct 12 18:42:06    |
       ...              BK>> Esp since the great majority of that debt was accumulated under       BK>> three republican anti-tax presidents. Even what has accumulated       BK>> under Obama is a small portion by comparison.               RW> Right, and when you consider that a portion of that debt is        RW> incurred because our tax structure was revamped to enable        RW> the rich to pay less. I hear all this whining about the        RW> so-called inheritance tax by folks that aren't going to        RW> have to pay it. Unless a couple passes along $3 million or        RW> more to their kids they're not impacted. HEre's all these               You suffer from a case of paying attention. Gotta go watch more        TV.               RW> average folks been duped into believing this is going to        RW> hurt them. they need to engage a few brain cells adn        RW> actually bother to read instead of listen to the talking        RW> heads on the political ads.               Read? Think?               You damn liberal!              BK>> You damn liberal!               RW> YOu might be surprised. I'm a big nonsupporter of a lot of        RW> welfare programs, but I do think that being able to have        RW> usable public transit, roads that I don't have to avoid        RW> because I might lose a wheel or an axle are important, etc.               Oh, I want to do away with almost all welfare. Simple to do,        just make sure there are enough jobs to go around.               RW> What really rubs my fur the wrong direction is the same        RW> folks who want me to sell out my grandson's future for the        RW> extremely rich want me to give up my personal liberties in        RW> the process. They'd rather the suoper rich didn't pay        RW> their fair share while we borrow money from other        RW> countries, which must be paid back with interest. This        RW> makes no sense to me!               See... you haven't watched enough TV.              BK>> Yep. I've been saying that all along. We need jobs, and we need to       BK>> bring back the factories.               RW> Right, but the part the liberals and the conservatives miss        RW> is this. Back in the post ww ii period when all the        RW> employers offered great health insurance benefits, etc. for        RW> employees there was less competition internationally. The        RW> tv you bought was made in the U.s> The kitchen appliances        RW> you bought were made in America. If we can't get the good        RW> factory jobs it's even more important to invest in such        RW> areas as research, etc. Even Republicans such as former        RW> Senator PEte DOmenici of NEw mExico were saying this a        RW> decade ago.               Research will not accomplish much if we don't put it to use        here. Bring back the factories. Put tarrifs on imports from        cheap labor countries.               RW> The employers can no longer afford to provide their        RW> employees those decent health insurance packages.        RW> Competition won't allow it. That means that if we want a        RW> healthy populace to be able to be productive something has        RW> to step into the gap. There's only one entity that can be        RW> reasonably expected to step into that gap, and that's the        RW> Federal government.               Oh no... you said a dirty word.               RW> You have to adapt to conditions as you find them. In many        RW> facets of our society we've failed to adapt. ORganisms        RW> that don't adapt to prevailing conditions die off and become        RW> extinct, it's a fact of life. this is true for societies        RW> as well as plants and animals.               Uh... yeah... that should be obvious... or do creationists        really believe God made us so much better than everyone else        that we don't have to make any effort?                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Cogito, ergo Hormel (I think, therefore I Spam)       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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