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|    Richard Webb to BOB KLAHN    |
|    the debt smokescreen    |
|    13 Oct 12 16:03:30    |
      HI Bob,              following up a message from Richard Webb to BOB KLAHN:               RW> I'm dead serious. Along with that, I'm rather disgusted        RW> with a bunch of octogenarians telling me bs instead of        RW> loking at the future with anything other than all this        RW> whining about national debt.              BK> Esp since the great majority of that debt was accumulated under        BK> three republican anti-tax presidents. Even what has accumulated        BK> under Obama is a small portion by comparison.              Right, and when you consider that a portion of that debt is       incurred because our tax structure was revamped to enable       the rich to pay less. I hear all this whining about the       so-called inheritance tax by folks that aren't going to have to pay it.        Unless a couple passes along $3 million or more       to their kids they're not impacted. HEre's all these       average folks been duped into believing this is going to       hurt them. they need to engage a few brain cells adn       actually bother to read instead of listen to the talking       heads on the political ads.              BK> You damn liberal!              YOu might be surprised. I'm a big nonsupporter of a lot of       welfare programs, but I do think that being able to have       usable public transit, roads that I don't have to avoid       because I might lose a wheel or an axle are important, etc.       What really rubs my fur the wrong direction is the same       folks who want me to sell out my grandson's future for the       extremely rich want me to give up my personal liberties in       the process. They'd rather the suoper rich didn't pay their fair share while       we borrow money from other countries, which must be paid back with interest.        This makes no sense to me!              BK> Yep. I've been saying that all along. We need jobs, and we need to       BK> bring back the factories.              Right, but the part the liberals and the conservatives miss       is this. Back in the post ww ii period when all the       employers offered great health insurance benefits, etc. for       employees there was less competition internationally. The       tv you bought was made in the U.s> The kitchen appliances       you bought were made in America. If we can't get the good       factory jobs it's even more important to invest in such       areas as research, etc. Even Republicans such as former       Senator PEte DOmenici of NEw mExico were saying this a       decade ago.              The employers can no longer afford to provide their       employees those decent health insurance packages.       Competition won't allow it. That means that if we want a       healthy populace to be able to be productive something has       to step into the gap. There's only one entity that can be       reasonably expected to step into that gap, and that's the       Federal government.              You have to adapt to conditions as you find them. In many       facets of our society we've failed to adapt. ORganisms that don't adapt to       prevailing conditions die off and become       extinct, it's a fact of life. this is true for societies as well as plants       and animals.                            Regards,        Richard       ... I Love My Country But Fear My Government       ---        * Origin: (1:116/901)    |
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