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   Message 2,267 of 4,105   
   Richard Webb to BOB KLAHN   
   the debt smokescreen   
   13 Oct 12 16:03:30   
   
   HI Bob,   
      
   following up a message from Richard Webb to BOB KLAHN:   
      
    RW> I'm dead serious.  Along with that, I'm rather disgusted   
    RW> with a bunch of octogenarians telling me bs instead of   
    RW> loking at the future with anything other than all this   
    RW> whining about national debt.   
      
   BK>  Esp since the great majority of that debt was accumulated under    
   BK> three republican anti-tax presidents. Even what has accumulated    
   BK> under Obama is a small portion by comparison.   
      
   Right, and when you consider that a portion of that debt is   
   incurred because our tax structure was revamped to enable   
   the rich to pay less.  I hear all this whining about the   
   so-called inheritance tax by folks that aren't going to have to pay it.    
   Unless a couple passes along $3 million or more   
   to their kids they're not impacted.  HEre's all these   
   average folks been duped into believing this is going to   
   hurt them.  they need to engage a few brain cells adn   
   actually bother to read instead of listen to the talking   
   heads on the political ads.   
      
   BK>  You damn liberal!   
      
   YOu might be surprised.  I'm a big nonsupporter of a lot of   
   welfare programs, but I do think that being able to have   
   usable public transit, roads that I don't have to avoid   
   because I might lose a wheel or an axle are important, etc.   
   What really rubs my fur the wrong direction is the same   
   folks who want me to sell out my grandson's future for the   
   extremely rich want me to give up my personal liberties in   
   the process.  They'd rather the suoper rich didn't pay their fair share while   
   we borrow money from other countries, which must be paid back with interest.    
   This makes no sense to me!   
      
   BK>  Yep. I've been saying that all along. We need jobs, and we need  to   
   BK> bring back the factories.   
      
   Right, but the part the liberals and the conservatives miss   
   is this.  Back in the post ww ii period when all the   
   employers offered great health insurance benefits, etc. for   
   employees there was less competition internationally.  The   
   tv you bought was made in the U.s>  The kitchen appliances   
   you bought were made in America.  If we can't get the good   
   factory jobs it's even more important to invest in such   
   areas as research, etc.  Even Republicans such as former   
   Senator PEte DOmenici of NEw mExico were saying this a   
   decade ago.   
      
   The employers can no longer afford to provide their   
   employees those decent health insurance packages.   
   Competition won't allow it.  That means that if we want a   
   healthy populace to be able to be productive something has   
   to step into the gap.  There's only one entity that can be   
   reasonably expected to step into that gap, and that's the   
   Federal government.   
      
   You have to adapt to conditions as you find them.  In many   
   facets of our society we've failed to adapt.  ORganisms that don't adapt to   
   prevailing conditions die off and become   
   extinct, it's a fact of life.  this is true for societies as well as plants   
   and animals.   
      
      
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
   ... I Love My Country But Fear My Government   
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