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   FRANK SCHEIDT to BOB KLAHN   
   Dangers of a Mormon Prez   
   28 Sep 12 21:35:58   
   
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   -> ->>  No, it didn't. If it did no one would even ask what religion   
   -> ->>  Obama is. If it didn't candidates would not feel pressured to   
   -> ->>  be publically questioned by religious leaders, often leaders of   
   -> ->>  minor sects. And yes, a couple million is a minor sect. If it   
   -> ->>  was't, we wouldn't even have an office of Faith Based   
   -> ->>  Initiatives.   
   ->    
   ->  FS> People asked about Obama's religion because it was widely   
   ->  FS> thought he was a Muslim.  We certainly wouldn't want a   
   ->  FS> member of such a violent religion to be in that office.   
   ->    
   ->  Why a violent religion like Christianity then?   
      
   Christianity is a peaceful, gentle, "turn the other cheek" religion --   
   quite a contrast from Islam.  Right?  This is not a religion echo but I had   
   to reply to your anti-Christian slur.   
      
   -> ->>  FS> In a way, Romney has an unfair advantage over all previous   
   -> ->>  FS> Republican candidates for POTUS since he is facing such a   
   -> ->>  FS> completely vulnerable candidate -- a candidate who   
   -> ->>  FS> performed even worse than Jimmy Carter did! YES, I'M   
   -> ->>  FS> SERIOUS!!   
   ->    
   -> ->>  *Wall Street Journal*: 70 percent of economists surveyed said   
   -> ->>  stimulus helped. **The Wall Street Journal reported on March 12   
   -> ->>  that 38 of the 54 economists it surveyed "said the American   
   -> ->>  Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted growth and mitigated job   
   -> ->>  losses, while six said the legislation had a net negative   
   -> ->>  effect."   
   -> ->>   
   -> ->>  **ABC News: Most on panel of economists "think the economy would   
   -> ->>  be worse" without the stimulus. **ABC News reported on February   
   -> ->>  18 that "most" of the economists on its panel "think the economy   
   -> ->>  would be worse today without the big aid package, which totaled   
   -> ->>  $787 billion and was signed into law by President Obama on Feb.   
   -> ->>  17, 2009."   
   -> ->>   
   -> ->>  **NABE: 83 percent say stimulus raised GDP. **A February survey   
   -> ->>  of 203 members of the National Association for Business   
   -> ->>  Economics (NABE) found that "[e]ighty-three percent believe that   
   -> ->>  GDP is currently higher than it would have been without the 2009   
   -> ->>  stimulus package (ARRA)."   
   -> ->>   
   -> ->>  *USA Today*: Surveyed economists said "stimulus package saved   
   -> ->>  jobs." **USA Today reported on January 25:   
   ->    
   ->  FS> Since it's known that the vast majority of the "news"media   
   ->  FS> consists of Obama worshippers ... well, at least, they all   
   ->  FS> *favor* Obama strongly, the above newspaper accounts mean   
   ->  FS> nothing.  The left-wing, pro-Obama bias, of the "news"media   
   ->  FS> is well-known.   
   ->    
   ->  The WSJ is far right wing. The NABE is made up of *BUSINESS*   
   ->  economists.   
      
   The Wall Street Journal is a middle-of-the-road paper!   
       
   -> ->>     President Obama's stimulus package saved jobs -- but the   
   -> ->>  government still needs to do more to breathe life into the   
   -> ->>  economy, according to USA TODAY's quarterly survey of 50   
   -> ->>  economists.   
   ->    
   ->  FS> That's wot Obama claims, but who believes him?  OK, maybe   
   ->  FS> *you* do, so there's one person ... [sigh] ...   
   ->    
   ->  And the economists chosen by the Wall Street Journal.   
   ->    
   -> ->>     Unemployment would have hit 10.8% -- higher than December's   
   -> ->>  10% rate -- without Obama's $787 billion stimulus program,   
   -> ->>  according to the economists' median estimate. The difference   
   -> ->>  would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.   
   ->    
   ->  FS>  Such wild speculation, Bob!  Obama, himself said   
   ->  FS>  unemployment would not reach 8% as a rusult of his   
   ->  FS>  stimulus ... so??   
   ->    
   ->  No, he did not. Some of his advisors made that calculation, but   
   ->  Obama did not say that.   
      
   If his handlers said it, and Obama did not deny it, then *Obama*, in   
   effect, said it!  "The Buck Stops Here" remember!    
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