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|    BOB KLAHN to FRANK SCHEIDT    |
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|    25 Sep 12 11:46:48    |
      ->>       FS> I've pointed that out many times in other political debate       FS> areas. No one will accept that, unfortunately. To Obama's       FS> crew, facts mean little.              *Wall Street Journal*: 70 percent of economists surveyed said       stimulus helped. **The Wall Street Journal reported on March 12       that 38 of the 54 economists it surveyed "said the American       Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted growth and mitigated job       losses, while six said the legislation had a net negative       effect."              **ABC News: Most on panel of economists "think the economy would       be worse" without the stimulus. **ABC News reported on February       18 that "most" of the economists on its panel "think the economy       would be worse today without the big aid package, which totaled       $787 billion and was signed into law by President Obama on Feb.       17, 2009."              **NABE: 83 percent say stimulus raised GDP. **A February survey       of 203 members of the National Association for Business       Economics (NABE) found that "[e]ighty-three percent believe that       GDP is currently higher than it would have been without the 2009       stimulus package (ARRA)."              *USA Today*: Surveyed economists said "stimulus package saved       jobs." **USA Today reported on January 25:               President Obama's stimulus package saved jobs -- but the       government still needs to do more to breathe life into the       economy, according to USA TODAY's quarterly survey of 50       economists.               Unemployment would have hit 10.8% -- higher than December's       10% rate -- without Obama's $787 billion stimulus program,       according to the economists' median estimate. The difference       would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.               FS> But that's all merely *speculation*! No one can predict        FS> the future and "economists" have an especially bad        FS> reputation in that area.               Just the economists beloved by the right.               Remember, all these economists are in the private sector, and        they all have very good reason to get it right. Such as, they        get fired if they don't.               FS> I strongly suspect the above        FS> speculation is mostly driven by the irrational liking of        FS> Barack Obama by the "news"media ...               Right wing media like the WSJ? Business economists who have        every reson to be conservative?               No, Frank, accept it, the stimulus worked.                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... "Virus check complete. All viruses functioning normally."       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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