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|    BOB KLAHN to LEE LOFASO    |
|    Gary Johnson    |
|    25 Sep 12 11:37:28    |
       LL>>> Voting for candidates who are not a Democrat or a Republican        LL>>> is viewed by many as being a wasted vote. However, Jesse        LL>>> Ventura and Minnesotans would tell you otherwise...              BK>>There are a lot of officials on the local level with little or       BK>>no connection to the parties, but on the national level they are       BK>>few and far between. I believe two or three in congress at the       BK>>same time is the most in recent memory.               LL> Jesse Ventura won election at the statewide level, having        LL> been elected Governor of Minnesota. He later toyed with        LL> idea of running for President, but his wife knocked some        LL> sense into his head thus bringing him back down to earth.               Jesse won, at least partly, by lying about his military service.        He was totally unqualified, and I don't see him being idolized        now.               LL> Ventura did make an interesting observation. The largest        LL> group of voters are not Democrats or Republicans, but        LL> Independents.               I have made that point long ago.               LL> And if a politician (such as Ventura) could        LL> tap into that base of voters, it would be lights out for        LL> both the Democratic and Republican candidates.               On that point he was wrong. See, the problem with counting on        independents is, they are too independent. No matter how much        you tap in you won't get them all, and either party can get        some. He needed to draw from the parties also.               ...              BK>>That is the real reason to participate by belief. That plus a       BK>>meaningful proposal by an outside party can change the course of       BK>>a major party.               LL> It often has. For example, the ideas of Norman Thomas        LL> strongly influenced the decisions that Franklin Roosevelt        LL> made. Especially in regards to domestic policy. Of               That is just what I was thinking of in my response.               LL> course, that helped America in a positive way. On the down        LL> side, the ideas and philosophy of the Tea Party would        LL> undoubtedly influence the future presidency of Mitt Romney.        LL> But I guess things could be worse. Just imagine the ghost        LL> of Ayn Rand influencing the future presidency of Paul        LL> Ryan. Or would that be too much of a nightmare?               No, way too much of the truth!              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... "Dave, put down those Windows Vista disks. Dave. Daaavvveee..." - HAL 9000       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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