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|    FRANK SCHEIDT to BOB KLAHN    |
|    The problem with Fidonet.    |
|    17 Sep 12 21:41:02    |
      -> ->> BK> ...       ->        -> ->> JM>> Well all the big 0 hasn't done anything except attack       -> ->> JM>> Romney. When will he begin to run on his record instead of       -> ->> JM>> away from it?       ->        -> ->> BK> He's had to spend so much time defending his record against       the       -> ->> BK> lies told by the right that he's learned, attack works better       -> ->> BK> than playing nice.       ->        -> ->> BK> The Stimulus really did work.       ->        -> ->> No it did not.       -> ->> Just like he didn't save the American Auto Industry.       ->        -> FS> I've pointed that out many times in other political debate       -> FS> areas. No one will accept that, unfortunately. To Obama's       -> FS> crew, facts mean little.       ->        -> *Wall Street Journal*: 70 percent of economists surveyed said       -> stimulus helped. **The Wall Street Journal reported on March 12       -> that 38 of the 54 economists it surveyed "said the American       -> Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted growth and mitigated job       -> losses, while six said the legislation had a net negative       -> effect."       ->        -> **ABC News: Most on panel of economists "think the economy would       -> be worse" without the stimulus. **ABC News reported on February       -> 18 that "most" of the economists on its panel "think the economy       -> would be worse today without the big aid package, which totaled       -> $787 billion and was signed into law by President Obama on Feb.       -> 17, 2009."       ->        -> **NABE: 83 percent say stimulus raised GDP. **A February survey       -> of 203 members of the National Association for Business       -> Economics (NABE) found that "[e]ighty-three percent believe that       -> GDP is currently higher than it would have been without the 2009       -> stimulus package (ARRA)."       ->        -> *USA Today*: Surveyed economists said "stimulus package saved       -> jobs." **USA Today reported on January 25:       ->        -> President Obama's stimulus package saved jobs -- but the       -> government still needs to do more to breathe life into the       -> economy, according to USA TODAY's quarterly survey of 50       -> economists.       ->        -> Unemployment would have hit 10.8% -- higher than December's       -> 10% rate -- without Obama's $787 billion stimulus program,       -> according to the economists' median estimate. The difference       -> would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.              But that's all merely *speculation*! No one can predict the future and       "economists" have an especially bad reputation in that area. I strongly       suspect the above speculation is mostly driven by the irrational liking of       Barack Obama by the "news"media ...       --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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