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   BOB KLAHN to JOHN MASSEY   
   The problem with Fidonet.   
   04 Sep 12 11:05:38   
   
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    JM> Well all the big 0 hasn't done anything except attack   
    JM> Romney. When will he begin to run on his record instead of   
    JM> away from it?   
      
    He's had to spend so much time defending his record against the   
    lies told by the right that he's learned, attack works better   
    than playing nice.   
      
    The Stimulus really did work.   
      
      
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    *Wall Street Journal*: 70 percent of economists surveyed said   
    stimulus helped. **The Wall Street Journal reported on March 12   
    that 38 of the 54 economists it surveyed "said the American   
    Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted growth and mitigated job   
    losses, while six said the legislation had a net negative   
    effect."   
      
    **ABC News: Most on panel of economists "think the economy would   
    be worse" without the stimulus. **ABC News reported on February   
    18 that "most" of the economists on its panel "think the economy   
    would be worse today without the big aid package, which totaled   
    $787 billion and was signed into law by President Obama on Feb.   
    17, 2009."   
      
    **NABE: 83 percent say stimulus raised GDP. **A February survey   
    of 203 members of the National Association for Business   
    Economics (NABE) found that "[e]ighty-three percent believe that   
    GDP is currently higher than it would have been without the 2009   
    stimulus package (ARRA)."   
      
    *USA Today*: Surveyed economists said "stimulus package saved   
    jobs." **USA Today reported on January 25:   
      
       President Obama's stimulus package saved jobs -- but the   
    government still needs to do more to breathe life into the   
    economy, according to USA TODAY's quarterly survey of 50   
    economists.   
      
       Unemployment would have hit 10.8% -- higher than December's   
    10% rate -- without Obama's $787 billion stimulus program,   
    according to the economists' median estimate. The difference   
    would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.   
      
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    The cuts in Medicare are to the insurance companies in Medicare   
    Advantage, not to ordinary medicare coverage. Those savings will   
    go into the Medicare Trust Fund, not to the Afordable Care Act.   
    Thus it will extend the life of medicare. Actuarily speaking.   
      
    There are not real budget cuts to the military, but the costs of   
    the wars now ending will be cut out.   
      
    Solyndra had investors who were big republican supporters, but   
    Obama's supporter who supposedly invested in Solyndra did not.   
      
    Oh, and Solyndra did start under Bush, and the Bush   
    administration never did reject it.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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