BK>>>  Ron Paul's problem is, he appeals more to libertarians than   
   BK>>> Republicans. He appeals more to Tea Baggers than long time   
   BK>>>  republicans.   
      
    RW>> But there you have my only quibble.  Many true libertarians   
    RW>> I know aren't teabaggers, because they understand that the   
    RW>> teabaggers  aren't true libertarians, they've been co-opted   
      
   BK>>  All true, but I was talking about who Ron Paul appeals to, not  the   
   BK>> beliefs of Libertarians and Tea Baggers.   
      
    RW> Okay.  Just wanted to make sure libertarians aren't tarred   
    RW> wtih the tea party brush.  Big difference!   
      
    True. Libertarians have a lot of good points, many of which I   
    agree with. Tea Baggers are very narrowly focused, and very   
    wrong and very dishonest.   
      
   >   
    RW>> That is a very apt description of Romney.  i have enough   
    RW>> problems voting for ROmney (or any mormon for that matter)   
    RW>> let alone his attitudes.   
    RW>> I might vote for a catholic, a jew, many other folks, but I   
    RW>> don't trust that church's leadership.   
      
   BK>>  The fact that I have heard so much, but can't get an honest  answer   
   BK>> to any of it disturbes me. Other than that, the clear  cults I   
   BK>> dispise are Scientology and Moonyism. I would not vote  for anyone   
   BK>> beloinging to either of those.   
      
    RW> Right, some of what I know about the mormon church was   
    RW> passed down from my dad's mother's side of the family, who   
    RW> resided in western ILlinois near the town of Nauvoo before   
    RW> they got there.  tHe main beef the locals had against them   
    RW> was predatory business practices.  Had they dealt fairly   
    RW> with their "gentile' neighbors the hue and cry against them   
    RW> in western Illinois wouldn't have been raised.   
    RW> Brigand Young demonstrated that it was part of their   
    RW> culture years later with the MOuntain MEadows massacre.   
      
    Now that about Nauvoo I had not known about. I did know about   
    the Mountain Meadow Massacre.   
      
    RW>> There are parts of mormonism I can actually relate to, i.e.   
    RW>> their beliefs that disaster preparedness is first and   
    RW>> foremost an individual responsibility, but some of the rest   
    RW>> ...   
      
   BK>>  Disaster preparedness is both an individual and a national   
   BK>>  responsibility. Individual is necessary for the short term,   
   BK>> national for the long term. And a level for everything in   
   BK>>  between.   
      
    RW> Again we would agree. IT's where the two meet in the   
    RW> middle. i tell folks prepare for 7 days of "on your own"   
    RW> after a disaster.   
      
    That is a very good standard. More won't hurt, less just might.   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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