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|    BOB KLAHN to JOHN MASSEY    |
|    Obama Cares    |
|    08 Aug 12 08:29:28    |
       ...               LL>> I have met several homeless vets on the street. Many of them        LL>> have lifelong injuries and/or mental problems. Getting shot or        LL>> shot at is not something that one easily forgets.               JM> I know. Been there done that. BUT I and millions of others        JM> GOT OVER IT and moved on.               You were wounded? Every combat Vet I know has been changed by        it, even 40 years later.               LL>> Especially        LL>> by those who have lost an arm and/or a leg (or worse).               JM> Your point?               A close call is not like a serious injury.               JM>>> You saying I've never had a personal tragedy or experienced grief?               LL>> Not the kind of grief that some others have suffered. For example,        LL>> one of my friends (now deceased) was shot in the head in Vietnam.               JM> One of my friends got shot I was there. I wasn't able to do        JM> anything to save him. I will never forget him but I don't        JM> dwell on the event either.               Everybody has friends or relatives who die, many of them die        young. It's different when you spend extended periods of time,        or have it happen often. Someone said, one death is a tragedy, a        thousand deaths is a statistic. When it happens close, one death        is a tragedy, multiple deaths change you.               LL>> He spent the next two and a half years in hospitals, most of that        LL>> time in a coma. He spent the rest of his life in constant pain,        LL>> which is to say almost forty years. The amount of money spent by        LL>> our government to have kept him alive all those years should not        LL>> be an issue.               JM> Agreed.               LL>> Nor should the amount of money spent to keep any        LL>> of our other citizens (whether veterans or scientists or teachers        LL>> or even homeless bums) alive be an issue.               JM> I disagree.               And that is the point.               LL>> The right to life is a RIGHT, not a privilege.               JM> Your life might be a right, but your demanding that others        JM> take care of those to sorry to do for them self is not.               When you are qualified to judge who is too sorry to take care of        himself you might have a point. Until then it's an issue on        which we hold to the other side.                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Yes, but you're taking the universe out of context .       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 And Still Here. Join Us: www.DocsPl (1:123/140)    |
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