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|    alexander koryagin to All    |
|    An essay about Love, State and humanity    |
|    27 Jul 12 16:48:43    |
      Hello, All!       An essay about Love, State and humanity.              Why did I start to think of it? Here is a real story that has been       going on in Russia. Persons in action: Julia - a woman in her       thirtieths and her under age son Leo. Julia immigrated from Russia       to the US long ago and became an American citizen. Leo was born in       America, and he is an American citizen from birth.              Julia had her Russian foreign passport - the only thing that       connects her with the country she left almost fifteen years ago.       Many Russians prefer to keep it, even if they become citizens of the       US, because the procedure of leaving from the Russian citizenship is       very long, tricky and expensive. The US does not recognize double       citizenship, but does not demand from its people to refuse from       their former citizenship if they have one.              The Russian passport expired, but Julia had no time to renew it in       San-Francisco where the nearest Russian consulate was. But when she       was making the Russian visa for her son, she was told in the Russian       consulate that she could visit Russia with her present document       without trouble. Was it an accidental error, I don't know.              So she went. Nobody said a word when she entered. She spent in       Russia three weeks, said good bye to her relatives and went to the       airport to fly back home, to the US. That day was ill luck. First       they found that her luggage exceeded the allowed limit by 2       kilograms, and they demanded 70 dollars for overweight. The luggage       was unpacked and lightened. But the worst was ahead. When she was       asked for the passport she gave her American passport and then       Russian one, as she entered Russia with it, as a Russian citizen. In       this place the fact of passport expiration was revealed and Julia       got into hot water.              First she was fined. But, probably, it was enough. She was banned       from living Russia, and although it was possible to settle the       matter at Sheremetyevo airport or in a Russian consulate in the US,       she was told to return to Moscow and make the new foreign Russian       passport. When she came to the Moscow's FMS (Federal migration       service) department, she was told that before she can apply for a       foreign Russian passport she must do an internal Russian passport.       And the ready time for both documents are up to 4-6 months. Besides,       she had to go to another Russian town (where she had lived in 20       years ago) and get notary's certificate of her birth in Russia (the       original one remained in her home in the US).              Everywhere she was brutally kicked and mocked. She could spend three       hour in a queue and then hear a brutal refuse and nonwillingness to       solve her problem. When she came to the Russian Ministry of Foreign       Affairs she was told that she is a Russian citizen and she must put       her US passport in place that cannot be named here, probably venting       on the poor woman and her son all the hatred they had against the US.              The US embassy also refused to help her, pretending that if she went       in with Russian passport she cannot wait any help from the American       embassy. They refused to make even a single phone call to request       for speeding up the documents making. It is an interesting       position. The US does not recognize her Russian citizenship, and       actually refused to count her as a real American citizen, too.              Julia's under age son was born in the US, and entered Russia with       Russian visa in his US passport. This visa should get expired in a       few days. Julia was forced to buy a ticket for her son and send him       alone to the US (he had to change planes during this trip). Probably       parents will understand what did she feel during his trip.              Days have been passing along. The only progress Julia could get is       the agreement that her foreign passport will be made in several       months without obtaining an internal Russian passport. When she       asked for forms to fill she was told that they had not any and they       could not help her to fill them. They mockingly advised her to buy       printers and, better, to buy a dirigible for flying from Russia.       Both Julia and her mother who helps her as she only could started       smoking again after giving up this habit several years ago.              In this way Julia lives in Moscow now, without her son, without real       documents (her US passport is not a real document in Russia),       without possibility to participate in her family business where she       is the book- keeper. Nobody can help, and probably she will live       limbo for months.              How cruel is this world, however.              Maybe somebody will say something helpful?              Bye All!       Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91       fido7.debate 2012                     --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds        * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)    |
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