BK>>>>   OTOH, if you beleive the way you appear to, you really should   
    BK>>>>   advocate eliminating social security, medicare, medicaid, and   
    BK>>>>   teh mandate that hospitals provide care in the ER even to those   
    BK>>>>   who can't pay.   
      
    JM>>> Give me the money taken from me and put in So-So security   
    JM>>> so I can invest it my self and I would be ecstatic if we   
      
    BK>>   If you think you have special investing talents,   
      
    JM> I have No investing talents. There are people that do. Some   
    JM> of those are friends of mine.   
      
    So, retirement planning that depends on having personal friends   
    with talent for investing is hardly a basis for national policy.   
      
    BK>>   then you must think others have lesser talents to get that 10% average.   
      
    JM> Isn't that proven almost daily?   
      
    Which is why your plan won't work for the population as a whole.   
      
    BK>>   IOW,   
    BK>>   you are willing to condemn others to a lesser level of living   
      
    JM> What a strange thing to say, I want people to be successful   
      
    Yet you are willing to abandon a policy that has lifted the   
    elderly from the poorest group in America to the wealthiest, and   
    condemn them to dependency on a highly variable investment   
    market.   
      
    You do realize, don't you, that Alan Greenspan supported tax   
    cuts to keep the social security surplus out of the private   
    market, as that would lead to govt control of much of the   
    market.   
      
    JM>>> did away with the social security, medicare, medicaid, and   
    JM>>> the mandate that hospitals provide care in the ER even to   
    JM>>> those  who can't pay.   
      
    BK>>   IOW, die quietly. You just admitted to wanting the republican   
    BK>>   plan I described.   
      
    JM> The Republican "Plan" you describe?   
      
    JM> Like I'm gonna believe you actually know what the   
    JM> Republican plan is.   
      
    The republican plan is to do as little as possible for the   
    people, and as much as possible for the one tenth of one   
    percent.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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