JM>>>>> Is there nothing you think is good that didn't come from or   
    JM>>>>> was a result of the union?   
      
    BK>>>>  Yeah, public education for one.   
      
    JM>>> Another failed effort.   
      
    BK>>   US public education was among the best in the world, until the   
      
    JM> Teachers unions came in and screwed the system.   
      
    Then explain why the dozen or so states with few or no teachers   
    union contracts don't out perform those who do have such   
    contracts. Texas is, last I looked, less than 1% under union   
    contracts. Why is Texas not an outstanding example of   
    educational accomplishment.   
      
    There are some 15,000 public school districts in this country.   
    Instead of making all that noise about the evils of teachers and   
    teacher's unions, let the right just take one of those   
    districts, and turn it from a low performing failure to an   
    example of outstanding education. That's all they have to do.   
      
    And don't give me any BS about teacher's unions blocking that,   
    from the chart I downloaded in 2001, there were 14 states with   
    less than 10% unionized schools. Texas has .1% of teachers under   
    union contracts, and 1.4% where unions even have the right to   
    meet with the school officials. South Carolina has zero   
    contracts and zero right to meet with school officials.   
      
    So, no unions to interfere. If they think they can do it, let   
    them just go ahead and do it, show us. The can even show us in   
    the show me state, Missouri where less than 15% of teachers have   
    any union rights at all.   
      
    Until then, all your claims that unions screw up education are   
    talking point with nothing to back them up.   
      
    You still can't answer this.   
      
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    US public education was among the best in the world, until the   
    right wing decided to destroy it. After about three decades of   
    trashing public education the right wing has come some way   
    toward accomplishing their goal.   
      
    However, the facts show that public education in this country   
    actually serves the majority of the students better than the   
    private schools. The greatest reason is, 90% of the students are   
    in public schools, and the private schools can't begin to handle   
    that number.   
      
    Even counting those in private schools, there are public school   
    systems that match their performance, or exceed it. The   
    financial status of the parents has more to do with the students   
    achievement than whether they are in private or public schools.   
    Public schools in well to do districts often outperform the   
    private school systems.   
      
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   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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