Re: Freedom!You   
     By: John Massey to Nicholas Boel on Tue Jul 17 2012 07:13 pm   
      
    > Different example not bad. It's relative to my experience with buying   
    > tools for employees. Not a huge corporation just a very small service   
    > company.  I have found in 30+ years, some people will take care of the   
    > tools you buy them some will not. The ones that took care of the tools   
    > usually did better work. The others generally didn't hang around long.   
    > I've had several employees that have more or less interned (with Pay)for   
    > five or six years then move on to start their own companies.   
    > I loved that. I feel in some small part I convinced them to start their    
    > business. Some of which hire 10 - 15 people  Some specialized in things   
    > that interested them. Now I go to them when I need that type of specialty.   
      
   Thanks for the better explanation of that example. It's basically the same way   
   with us in the sense of depending on the situation. If someone blatantly breaks   
   one of their tools expecting to get one in return, they might be surprised when   
   the foreman tells them where to put that broken spud. :)   
      
   Our trade is fly-by-night. One day you could be working for one company, and   
   then next, you can be working for another. People come and go. So for someone   
   to come in right away, break a tool, and expect a new one, will probably "drag   
   up" and go to another company before his tool is reimbursed anyways. So yeah,   
   there's not 100% equal treatment in unions. Guys that stick around with one   
   company in good times and bad, tend to get a few more perks (more hours, tools   
   reimbursed due to normal wear/breakage, etc).   
      
    > What if the new employee's spud was worn out and chose this job to spring.   
    >  Employee gets new spud for a worn out one.   
      
   If it was done on purpose, it will be usually be seen by someone. It will   
   probably not be replaced. If it was an accident....   
      
    > That could be very dangerous, slip off and cause  a worker to lose   
    > balance. Not a good thing working up high on a building.   
      
   ....and that's a good way of looking at it.   
      
    > What does a 12" Kline spud wrench go for up you way?   
      
   Depends on the size. A standard 1 1/4" spud used for 3/4" bolts is right around   
   $40. My entire tool belt without harness is probably around $300. That's not   
   including my welding gear, or my tool bucket for layout/fabrication.   
      
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