On 7/17/2012 18:04, Nicholas Boel -> John Massey wrote:   
    NB>    Re: Freedom!You   
    NB>    By: John Massey to BOB KLAHN on Tue Jul 17 2012 12:05 pm   
      
    >> Example. I buy a new employe a $30.00 long china bristle professional   
    >> paint brush. Tell him it's his brush, and to take care of it. A week   
    >> later   
    >> I tell him to paint something and he tells me he doesn't have the paint   
    >> brush because he didn't do a good job cleaning the brush and it got   
    >> hard.   
      
    NB> Bad example.   
      
      
   Different example not bad. It's relative to my experience with buying tools   
   for employees. Not a huge corporation just a very small service company.  I   
   have found in 30+ years, some people will take care of the tools you buy them   
   some will not. The ones that took care of the tools   
   usually did better work. The others generally didn't hang around long.   
   I've had several employees that have more or less interned (with Pay)for five   
   or six years then move on to start their own companies.   
   I loved that. I feel in some small part I convinced them to start their   
   business. Some of which hire 10 - 15 people  Some specialized in things that   
   interested them. Now I go to them when I need that type of specialty.   
      
      
    NB> In my case, a new employee shows up on the job with all his   
    NB> own bought and paid for personal tools. While torquing a bolt with a spud   
    NB> wrench, it springs the wrench, stretching the opening that accepts the   
    NB> bolt.   
      
   What if the new employee's spud was worn out and chose this job to spring.    
   Employee gets new spud for a worn out one.   
      
    NB> Now it is bound to slip off future bolts much easier. Our boss will buy   
   the   
    NB> employee a new spud wrench.   
      
   That could be very dangerous, slip off and cause  a worker to lose balance.   
   Not a good thing working up high on a building.   
      
      
    NB> if the employee breaks the wrench again doing the same thing, it might   
   very   
    NB> well not be replaced. I don't think it's a lifetime warrantee or   
    NB> anything, but it's a good company taking care of their employees (to a   
   certain point, of   
    NB> course).   
      
   What does a 12" Kline spud wrench go for up you way?   
      
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