On 7/17/2012 1:20, BOB KLAHN -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:   
      
    JM>>>> Your personal tools are YOUR responsibility. Why should the   
    JM>>>> company pay for your handtools?   
      
    BK>>>   Some do. Depends on the work. Some jobs the tools can be easily   
    BK>>>   damaged.   
      
    JM>> Wow, Bet you think that's earth shattering news.   
      
    BK>   Does that mean you don't understand the idea behind supplying   
    BK>   replacement tools?   
      
   Example. I buy a new employe a $30.00 long china bristle professional   
   paint brush. Tell him it's his brush, and to take care of it. A week later I   
   tell him to paint something and he tells me he doesn't have the paint brush   
   because he didn't do a good job cleaning the brush and it got hard.   
      
   He didn't buy it, doesn't care about it, this applies to cordless drills, tape   
   measures, levels, damn near every tool you give to SOME employes.   
      
   In the case of the paint brush, I told the young man he could buy a   
   replacement, quit or be fired.   
      
      
    JM>> I guess you are right Bob. I guess in my 30 years+ dealing   
    JM>> with private sector contractors I have learned nothing.   
      
    BK>   IF you believe contractors will let them get away with that, it   
    BK>   would seem so.   
      
    JM>> You on the other hand, who I doubt has had very much   
    JM>> experience in dealing with private sector contractors,   
    JM>> knows it all.   
      
    BK>   I have 45+ years dealing with management. I find they don't   
    BK>   allow dragging out jobs. Those who do such don't get jobs again.   
      
   Management. ah, yes.   
   The first fallacy of Management is the presumption that it exist.   
      
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