On 7/17/2012 0:48, BOB KLAHN -> JOHN MASSEY wrote:   
      
    BK>>>   Put the public option back in. Dramaticall is $1 trillion a year   
    BK>>>   savings on the US medical care system, which is what we would   
    BK>>>   save with the most expensive national health care system in the   
    BK>>>   industrial world.   
      
    BK>>>   Dramatic is going from 17% heading to 20% of GDP to 8% to 12% on   
    BK>>>   the highest end.   
      
    BK>   ...   
      
    BK>>>   People are dying for lack of health care.   
      
    JM>> People with healthcare die.   
      
    BK>   IF that's your reasoning you should not have insurance,   
      
   I think I should have the insurance flan that fits my needs and that I can   
   afford.   
      
    BK>   should  not even seek treatment when you are injured or ill.   
      
   Why not I have insurance.   
      
    JM>>>> You have no idea what it takes to light my fuse, you have   
    JM>>>> never seen it lit.   
      
    BK>>>   Would someone you care for dying for lack of healh   
    BK>>>   insurance light it?   
      
    JM>> I don't have a lack of healthcare insurance and no one I   
    JM>> care about does either. And guess what... I didn't need the   
    JM>> Government to tell me I needed it or ask you to pay for it.   
      
    BK>>> Either there is a very small group of people you care about,   
      
   Should have said care for instead care about.   
    You do understand the difference between "to care for"  and "to care about."   
      
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